Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1213699)

why is this a problem?

do you want to mandate that they get an injection that they may not want but mock them for taking something that they want to take?

maybe we should offer them clean needles and an injection site for deworming so it's safer...or something?

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213726)

Why can't you answer the question?

The antifa/blm riots, and the January 6th riot, were both cases where a group of babies couldn't handle that they didn't get their way, and they threw a temper tantrum. They have that in common.

Do you think it's justified to shoot trespassers on sight? When they are women who are an intimidating 5'2", unarmed, and you give them no warning? We KNOW that's what happened to the one rioter who was killed, and NO ONE in the mainstream media is asking why she had to die.

All your pals in the media who said the Duke lacrosse players were guilty, who said Michael Brown was innocent, who said Nick Sandman was a skinhead, NONE of them asked any questions about why that woman was killed.

But when a black person is killed by a white cop, now that's a story that liberals will care about. If she was black and the cop who killed her was white, and if she was protesting on behalf of a liberal cause, the reaction would have been a lot different.

Please make that wrong.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213726)

Why can't you answer the question?

The antifa/blm riots, and the January 6th riot, were both cases where a group of babies couldn't handle that they didn't get their way, and they threw a temper tantrum. They have that in common.

Do you think it's justified to shoot trespassers on sight? When they are women who are an intimidating 5'2", unarmed, and you give them no warning? We KNOW that's what happened to the one rioter who was killed, and NO ONE in the mainstream media is asking why she had to die.

All your pals in the media who said the Duke lacrosse players were guilty, who said Michael Brown was innocent, who said Nick Sandman was a skinhead, NONE of them asked any questions about why that woman was killed.

But when a black person is killed by a white cop, now that's a story that liberals will care about. If she was black and the cop who killed her was white, and if she was protesting on behalf of a liberal cause, the reaction would have been a lot different.

Please make that wrong.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1213728)

And this link says its moving to the left
https://tennesseelookout.com/2020/12...ation-express/

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1213733)

She was former USAF security forces. There are LITERAL RED LINES around aircraft & base gates, weapons bunkers where she was authorized to shoot to kill if necessary. She decided to cross a Red Line to overthrow Democracy ... this was the result.
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1213736)

You incorrigibly maintain your style of stretching, twisting, to the point of lying. A "Red Line"? And she decided to "overthrow Democracy"? You really believe that she wanted to "overthrow Democracy"? You don't think she believed that she wanted to save or restore Democracy?

Ahh . . . that's right . . . I forget . . . you read minds from afar . . . even after death.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1213741)

So a violent mob is within seconds of breeching the last doors and having full access to the House Chamber. Two armed police officers have their weapons drawn, then lower them and is over run. The insurrectionists capture and injure many House members, some with life threatening injuries or even beaten to death.

Imagine how that would go on your yearly performance review.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213742)

which house members were captured and beaten to death?
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1213741)

So a violent mob is within seconds of breeching the last doors and having full access to the House Chamber. Two armed police officers have their weapons drawn, then lower them and is over run. The insurrectionists capture and injure many House members, some with life threatening injuries or even beaten to death.

Imagine how that would go on your yearly performance review.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1213737)

Perhaps you can explain what the goal of smashing her way in and crawling through a broken window was?

I don't have the power you seem to think you have of reading minds. Where do you get the notion that she was trying to "overthrow Democracy"? That's a very tall order. She was going to get rid of Democracy . . . by breaking through a window . . . unarmed? I'm fairly confident that Democracy would still be solidly around had she not been shot. So, what her specific, personal, goal was, I don't really know. And she's not available to answer that. From what the rioters seem to claim, they were trying to "stop the steal." It seems that they believed that Democracy was "overthrown" by election fraud. So it seems that in their minds they were trying to restore Democracy.

And there were probably other types who just wanted to create chaos for other reasons, political or ideological, from the "left" and "right."

Every one of the protesters would shoot me if I broke their door or window and was climbing through. Find me one who would not have stood their ground. I’ll wait.
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1213749)

Wait forever if that floats your boat. I haven't commented on whether she should have been, or deserved to be, shot. You, obviously, think she should have been shot and that she deserved it.

I don't have a strong opinion on that. It seemed to me to be a bit of an overreaction. But I don't have enough info to make any claims on whether she should or shouldn't have been shot. I kind of go along with Jim's supposition that if the officer were white and she were black, the left would probably have made a fuss about it. Maybe not. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1213752)

Of course because being the victim fits your narrative
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213744)

as for my poor performance review, Id justly get fired.

how come your side doesn’t hold
antifa or blm rioters to the same standard?


Jim because we are not delusional.. but please keep running in a circle yelling what about Antifa and BLM

Ps get back to me when they try to overthrow the government based on a seditious lying Donald Trump the election was stolen nonsense

Also it’s odd cops killing unarmed citizens suddenly bothers you? Why is that .. ?
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1213755)

There you go with your phony labels. I never mentioned a "victim" nor did I say she was a "victim." But it's what you do. Conjecture, insinuate, label, lie.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1213758)

Then what was she, what was her objective and how did she hope to accomplish it by crawling through a broken window?
Just a tourist?
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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1213751)

cops unjustly using force always bothers me. we agree on that. blacks murdered by other blacks in gang violence also bothers me, but not you. That’s the difference. show me a post where you decry urban violence in america, which literally takes thousands of times as many lives as white cops. but the left spends all their time talking about cops.

i addressed your question head in. can you show me the same courtesy?

what was their plan, exactly, to overthrow the government? it makes zero sense, there’s zero evidence that was their goal.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213756)

If that was not their goal, even though they chanted hang Mike Pence (odd, how a mob decided that) then perhaps you could explain the objective of the “tourists”?
Just a bunch of sightseers, wanting to assist the elected officials?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213759)

she was a crybaby rioter. please provide ANY facts to show that this group had any kind of collective plan?

do you ever stop making gibberish up?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213756)

If that was not their goal, even though they chanted hang Mike Pence (odd, how a mob decided that) then perhaps you could explain the objective of the “tourists”?
Just a bunch of sightseers, wanting to assist the elected officials?
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1213760)

how come you’ve never called out liberal rioters who cha t for dead cops? how come you give liberal
rioters a pass, but hold
the capital rioters to a completely different standard?

which mob killed more people, destroyed more property? antifa/blm, or the capital
rioters?

in one of the liberal riots, they doused a police station with gas and tried to set it on fire, after barricading cops inside. you never, ever called them out.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213763)

Let’s see, one wants police prosecuted for what they see as illegal executions and the others want to stop the legitimate functions of our elected officials
But what about…….
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1213764)

they chanted dead cops. not “prosecute the bad apples to the fullest extent of the law.”

i forgot what a shameless
liar you are. back to blocked.
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1213758)

Then what was she, what was her objective and how did she hope to accomplish it by crawling through a broken window?
Just a tourist?
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1213773)

I can't claim to know for sure what her objective was. She was probably misled into thinking that the rioters were going to somehow convince everybody that the election was stolen. Probably caught up in the enthusiasm for such an outcome, actually thinking that would happen. If so, she was obviously naive. But to claim that her goal was to "overthrow Democracy" is hyperbolic characterization most likely meant to paint her as an "insurrectionist" who was a hair's breath of overthrowing the government rather than a foolish rioter. Even your implication that she broke the window and smashed her way in is not correct. The window had already been removed and she didn't smash anything--other than her hope of seeing any kind of new victorious day, or any day at all.