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tlapinski 02-15-2004 10:04 AM

Herring attempt
 
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here are some attempts at herring i did yesterday. i need something with a large profile for use in the herring run on the CT river. i have one copy of a two hook fly that a lot of guys use that i'll take a pic of later. i want to stay away from anything two hook. any sugestions for modifications or something else i should try?

saltydog 02-15-2004 11:19 AM

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T LAPINSKI, if your looking foe a BIGGER PROFILE add a SPREADER using e-zbody they make S.M.L.XL.
so find some an you will have the best looking flys around
heres a pic of a spreaded first tie material on the hook for center of bodu then ADD the spreader on top then put your boay material on top of the spreader.
the 2. pic of a a fly w/ spreader in it

tlapinski 02-15-2004 11:29 AM

thanks! i'll pick some up today.

steelhead 02-15-2004 04:51 PM

Getting a flaired profile
 
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If you want to get a bigger, more flaired profile with bucktail, oyu can do it in a couple ways. I'll try to describe two.

First, you can do it by building up the body material in one spot right behind where you are going to tie in the bucktail at the head of the fly. If I'm using body braid, for example, I'll take 5 or 6 turns of braid, so that i get anicely shaped bump aobut 3/126" behind the eye of the hook. When you tie in the bucktail, cinch the thread down and back agaianst the built up bump in the body and the bucktail will fliar up and away from the shank of the hook.

The second technique for getting bucktail to flair is called reverse tying. IN this technique, you tie the bucktail in facing forward. Then, you fold it back on itself and take several wraps of thread in front of the folded back bucktail hair. for this technique, I use an empty plastic ball point pen that I can slide over thn shank of the hook to push the bucktail back until I grasp iut with my other hand. then I remove the tube and do my wraps in front of the bucktail.

Here's a picture of two flies done using these techniques.

PS: If you're in the Newport area on the 21st of February, I will be tying at the Saltwater Edge Fly Fest (check their website for details) and I would be happy to show you how to tie a fly using these techniques in person.

rizzo 02-16-2004 12:13 PM

They look good, something else to consider is how easy they cast. I made some herring flies like that last year, a little bit fuller, and they were hard to cast fo me. I ended up using something like steelhead's flies in the river and did okay with them, and they are really easy to cast. Its amazing how life like those flatwings look even in slow moving water.

saltydog 02-17-2004 08:15 AM

Rizzo, use YAK HAIR, sheads water an is very light only the hook is the weight.
GOOD LUCK GOOD TYIN:cool:

tlapinski 02-17-2004 08:24 AM

that is yak hair in the flys i posted. i need to find some more. i bought one package at the fishing show this past week, but it is almost gone.

rizzo 02-17-2004 10:06 AM

I used yak hair but it still was tough to cast, must have put it on too thick?

saltydog 02-17-2004 05:00 PM

YES I SEE, BUT don't use any feathers just the YAK an some FLASH
GOOD LUCK GOOD TYIN;)

denis 02-17-2004 05:39 PM

Toby

I,ll bring a couple flies sat to the get together.

Any other tyers going to the Fairhaven get together?

tlapinski 02-25-2004 01:21 PM

denis, what was that material you were showing me that you tied the peanut imitators with? too much :gu: saturday night.


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