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thefishingfreak 04-04-2004 09:08 PM

what to do with poachers?
 
ok,
what would you do with all the illigal, poachers, at your favorite herring run?

call the cops?
call the rangers?

last year my run was infected with "illigals" every day!!!
seems the rangers only show up like 3 or 4 days a week. but when the mans not there, it's a free for all. guys h#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g cast nets, guys taking buckets full etc.. heck you don't even need a net.
i'm not talking "fishermen" either.
mike

striprman 04-04-2004 09:15 PM

A saltwater licence would provide money for law enforcement so that the herring runs could be patroled 24/7 during the seasonal runs.

The fines and penalties for poaching are not severe enough.

Fines should be $100 dollars per fish, confiscation of vehicle, jail time, public service.

C-5 CC 04-04-2004 09:21 PM

as stated before...you are definately a "friggen democrat"

gdurham75 04-04-2004 09:29 PM

poachers
 
guys taking herring illegally is a tough nut to crack. Whatever run you may be talking about os supposed to be regulated by the town. they issue the permits for the taking of herring. your first step should be talk to either the conservation officer, if your town has one, or talk to the rangers. Trust me, they want to bag theses guys, they are just usually streched kinda then. If that doesn't get results...contact your local E.P.O. write down the plate numbers at the run, and give them, to the EPO.....they'll get results. :smash:

striprman 04-04-2004 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by C-5 CC
as stated before...you are definately a "friggen democrat"
Are you a poacher?

thefishingfreak 04-04-2004 09:34 PM

striprman,,,, please,,, stay out of my threads.
mike

Raider Ronnie 04-04-2004 09:41 PM

There's got to be a way of getting this frigin jerk Striperman banned and off this site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:beh ead:

OX 04-04-2004 09:44 PM

http://images.animfactory.com/animat...ard_md_blk.gif STRIPRMAN http://teacherweb.com/images/donkey.gif

Rowdy 04-04-2004 09:46 PM

nj fgw has a hotline 1-800-Game-thief got it programmed in my cell. called last year on some A-hole that had about 10 15 to 18 inch stripers burried in the sand on the beach and they were there asap also helps to get license plates and whatever other info you can. fish and game needs to employ voulanteer deputies i'm sure alot of us would love to help..

Fly Rod 04-04-2004 09:47 PM

Maybe we can loan you a few enviromental cops from up here. We have more of them then city cops!!! With fishing closed up this way they are like the maytag man "sleeping"

You should call the state marine fishiers and I'm sure that they would send an enviromental to investigate!!!

Here is a number if you want to be an informer.

1-800-632-8075

I'm sure they could put you intouch with the right people

thefishingfreak 04-04-2004 09:54 PM

i agree,
give me the badge, and the gun, i'm there enough.
volunteer herring run deputy mike

maddog2020 04-04-2004 09:55 PM

Fish Poaching: call the MA EPO (800) 632-8075

Never had to call it yet. Call it in and you did your share to help. It doesn't always do you any good to confront the people - leave that to the EPOs.

Some folks may not know its "illegal" - other's don't care. :(

"there is no excuse for ignorance of the law" - that is what an retired Federal EPO once us in a class in college in 1985. This guy would have arrested his mother. :P

BigFish 04-04-2004 09:56 PM

Striprman, use your head for something other than a hat rack! You honestly are under the assumption that should there be a saltwater fishing license, that would generate more state revenue and you believe that they would post some type of enforcement at the herring runs 24/7?????:smash: You are without a doubt the biggest fool I have seen come down the pike in quite a while.:doh: By the way, I got some swamp land for sale, you interested???

I tried calling the environmental police once last year in regards to a problem and was passed around on the phone like a friggin hot potato! You think money is gonna solve that type of problem???? Pull your head out from where the sun don't shine and get some jumper cables on that melon you are sporting, cause the charge has run down to the point where you can't even spark productive thought!!!:wall: :wall:

thefishingfreak 04-04-2004 10:00 PM

yeah,
but when i call the epo?
how long till they get there?
tomorrow?
when all the poachers are gone?
mike

Van 04-04-2004 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigFish
Pull your head out from where the sun don't shine and get some jumper cables on that melon you are sporting, cause the charge has run down to the point where you can't even spark productive thought!!!
BF,,, How do you REALLY feel ????:confused: :confused:

thefishingfreak 04-04-2004 10:03 PM

no lo comprende'
ignorance of the law is no excuse!

Fly Rod 04-04-2004 10:04 PM

Striperman

I already pay $100 for my trailer that I use twice a year

$170 for my boat license

$70 for boat registration.

Don't you feel guilty ?????
Maybe you would be happier if you donated to my cause and we could say that is your dues for a salt water license

I'll bet you are a John Kerry fan!!!!

C-5 CC 04-04-2004 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by striprman
Are you a poacher?
Ya...sure..OK...you're right... I'm a poacher. So, I guess you will want to come and arrest me. You had better bring an army or two. Just pick a spot that you want to take me into custody, and I'll bet we have lots of company:D

beachwalker 04-05-2004 08:01 AM

you folks is toasted..........

:laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

castn4bass 04-05-2004 08:14 AM

saltwater licence
 
John,,, seeing as Striperman is so set on us all paying a saltwater fishing licence here is the idea I propose....

Take the total number of registered users on this board and charge them $50.00 each.

I'm sure that Striperman would be happy to pay our bill just so that he could have things HIS WAY!

Take the fees and use them to run this board, for I am sure it would be better spent, than if the state got its hands on that money!!!!!:D :D

The Dad Fisherman 04-05-2004 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by striprman
A saltwater licence would provide money for law enforcement so that the herring runs could be patroled 24/7 during the seasonal runs.


We pay for feshwater licenses and the money is SUPPOSED to be used for supporting the freshwater fishery. But it ended up diverted to the state budget and they're closing hatcheries down for lack of funds.

My guess is that any money we did put towards saltwater licensing would end up in that big hole in the ground we call the Big Dig and not in supporting the fisheries as it should be intended for.

just my $.02

MakoMike 04-05-2004 08:59 AM

Guys,
don't you need a FW licene to take herring in MA? Here in RI you do. So the license fees are already there for that 24/7 patrols, we just need striprman to tell the DEm to get it ass in gear.

179 04-05-2004 09:31 AM

The 1st order of business should be to enforce the current laws. I was down at the local runs last season when d.e.m came asking to see a valid freshwater license. Well on two occasions there were guys grabbing herring with no license and d.e.m let them off with a warning. Somebody needs to be made the example!

bart 04-05-2004 10:40 AM

i know its probably not the best thing to do, but i always confront poachers. i don't have any tolerance for that shiat. i've never fished herring so i don't see that problem at the runs, but i def see it during the course of a season. gotta find the find number to call in Rhody to report these bastards. can you call the police? i mean it is a law they're breaking.

Rowdy 04-05-2004 11:50 AM

here is a link to new jersey fish and game program called Operation Game Thief i have searched other FGW websites and havent found a similar program maby you can suggest this to your FGW offices and get it started near you Operation Game Thief

this is very similar to haveing us as deputies which i believe will help alot.

beamie 04-05-2004 12:45 PM

A freind of mine once witnessed a comm lobsterman at night with a gill net across the creek. filled up about 8 totes. What a way to really ruin it for everyone, except maybe the lobsterman.

pete santini 04-05-2004 05:05 PM

go to the police in you city and ask them for some of that yellow crime scene tape and put it aroud your herring run thenput up a sign somebody was eaten by a freshwater shark. make sure you post it many different languages so everyone can read it

Raven 04-06-2004 11:44 AM

the question was
 
quote: by fishingfreak: what to do with poachers?

my answer is: video tape them in the act. and then go and video tape their cars and license plates as well. Then you have solid proof that they are breaking the law. Once submitted to the proper law enforcement agency they will have to enforce the law.

Flaptail 04-06-2004 01:07 PM

I myself think that instant retribution is the only way to deal with poachers. That being said I think you all know what that means. Oh yeah, if there is anything left of them then call the cops if you still feel the need. That is all, as you were, you may stand down.

chris L 04-06-2004 01:48 PM

wait for water to boil then boil for 3 minutes or until whites are stiff .


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