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beachwalker 06-03-2004 10:11 PM

Seal clubbing
 
I am about ready to loose it. Great Point has been hostage to a colony of gray and harbor seals for almost a month now. We have only been able to fish it twice this spring and that has got me ready to whack these fuggers.

Ther're pups so I think their skins would be worth something :eek:

Anyone have some experience here ?

bluefish 06-03-2004 11:10 PM

It's not like I'm PETA or anything because I think they're loons but.....

you ARE kidding..... right? :)

In all seriousness though, I saw a documentary on it once and it is friggin' brutality. The "clubs" also had a scythe that was used to impale the seal after the poor thing had been clubbed and was down. Then the seal is lifted up off the sand, struggling; and is skinned alive. The seal is STILL ALIVE after it's skin has been brutally removed. It is one of the worst acts of inhumanity I have ever witnessed. Pure evil IMHO.

Skip N 06-04-2004 12:10 AM

I agree Bluefish, I am certainly not one of those PETA freaks either but that is just friggen cruel what they do to those seals. I hope he was kidding about that.:af:

killerlexus 06-04-2004 01:38 AM

just jig them like pogies and gaf them when you get one near the boat,.. shet you cant get in trouble unless you get caught,,,right?:smash:

beachwalker 06-04-2004 06:02 AM

of course I am kidding. They have taken over a productive spot. :af:

I read in a n article in the NYT a month or so ago and it talked how the Harp Seal pelts were popular again especially in eastern Europe. I t ends up that when they use to whack them with a club like blue said, it was very gnarley and they were skinning them before they were dead. Today they have to make sure the animal has expired blah blah blah.

The ridiculous part is that they now wait for the seal to mature past the white fur stage to a gray mottled stage and oddly enough the enviros aren't as noisy.

prejudice in the animal kingdom.

I want a 50 mm gun for the back of my truck :laughs:

fishweewee 06-04-2004 06:57 AM

bullet in the head. wait till it expires. then skin it. :bshake:

fishsmith 06-04-2004 07:04 AM

Fight one of those babies on light tackle, boy I tell you what the harbor seal makes a bluefish feel like guppy.

Joe 06-04-2004 07:04 AM

The Canadian government recently opened the quotas on sealskins - they even have a training program for the clubbers and observers to ensure that the seals are not skinned alive.

bloocrab 06-04-2004 07:42 AM

Quote:

"You Killed It. Eat it."

:wavey:

Bob Senior 06-04-2004 07:53 AM

Seal chowdah!!! Good stuff.

Bob Senior 06-04-2004 07:54 AM

Seal and chips!

striprman 06-04-2004 08:13 AM

I remember seeing a documentary about native American indians of the northwest tundra and polar areas. They would take their harpoon, crawl out on to the ice to the seals "breathing hole", and when the seal came up for a breath, they would harpoon it. Then it would be skun and eaten (raw).

killerlexus 06-04-2004 09:02 AM

eskimos wait at the seals breathing hole to harpoon it,when it comes up for air,,,
i plan on going seal hunting, where did you say you see these seals at? i haven't used the ole potatoe gun in a while, use to only shoot at boaters that got to close to shore,no i can use the monster blaster to make some money.how much are they offering for the pelts?. :laughs:

S-Journey 06-04-2004 09:29 AM

Beachwalker you need a few seal bombs. It will clear that place out in a hurry. I know they don't affect most fish but I don't know about striped bass (don't know why, would think everything would clear out?). They are used a lot on the West coast by squid fishermen in California and Halibut fishermen in Alaska, and I've even heard of some of the Yellowfin guys around here using them.

We used to have boxes of them on the boat in AK. We only used them for blowing chunks of ice off the boat.

Here's a link to a google on "Seal bombs".
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...22&btnG=Search

S-Journey 06-04-2004 09:40 AM

Heres the law...

Federal law - the Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) - allows recreational fishers to deter a marine mammal from damaging their catch or gear so long as the measures used do not result in the death or serious injury of the marine mammal. NMFS is developing regulations that prohibit certain types of deterrence that may have significant adverse effects on marine mammals, as well as guidelines for safely deterring marine mammals. However, that guidance is not yet available so this interim advice is provided.

Acceptable deterrence measures by sport anglers:


Are utilized only when the fisher is actually fishing and deterrence efforts are aimed solely at protecting actively fished gear.
Are not utilized on seals/sea lions that are hauled-out on land, rocks or other structures (e.g., buoys, jettys, etc.).
Do not cause or have the potential to cause serious injury or mortality to the marine mammal. NMFS has defined injury as:

Injury to a marine mammal means a wound or other physical harm. Signs of injury include but are not limited to, visible blood flow, loss or damage to an appendage or jaw, inability to use one or more appendages, inability to swim, noticeable swelling or hemorrhage, lacerations, and puncture or rupture of eyeball.

To avoid injury to a marine mammal, anglers should not


Use firearms
Use any object that can or has the potential to pierce, cut or penetrate the body of a marine mammal

Examples of acceptable deterrence measures are:


Use of noise making devices
Use of firecrackers (small scale firecrackers with explosive power equal to or less than Class C explosives - e.g., "seal bombs") on seals and sea lions (provided that they are not placed in contact with the seal/sea lion's body). Check with local authorities to determine if use of pyrotechnics is allowed in your area before attempting to purchase seal-control firecrackers.

fishweewee 06-04-2004 09:52 AM

Tasty Seal Meat Recipes

Seal Meat
Stir Fry
(Serves 4-6)

1 lb. Cleaned boneless seal meat
1 marinade recipe
8 oz frozen steamed noodles
_ head of Broccoli florets
_ head of Cauliflower florets
1 Red Pepper cut into strips
1 Green Pepper cut into strips
1 large Carrot cut into coins
_ Cup Bean Sprouts
_ Cup Snow Peas
1/8 Cup Sesame Oil
Sesame Seeds for Garnish
1 Tsp. Cornstarch

Marinade:
_ Cup Light Soya Sauce
1 Clove Garlic
_ Cup Red Onion (Julienne)
_ Cup Sesame Oil
1 Tbsp. Chili Paste
2 oz. Fresh Ground Ginger


Place seal in marinade for 1 hour. In a wok or large frying pan, pour sesame oil & heat until smoking. Add remaining vegetable. Mix cornstarch with left over marinade & add to seal & vegetables. Cook additional 2 minutes. Steam noodles. Place Contents of wok over steamed noodles & garnish with sesame seeds.

Seal & Mushroom Pastries
(Serves 4)


12 oz. Cleaned Boneless Seal Meat cut into _ “ cubes.
4 oz. Chantrell Mushrooms, Diced
1 Spanish Onion, finely diced
1 Clove Minced Garlic
_ Cup Red Wine
1 Tbsp. Flour mixed with
1/8 Cup of Water for Thickening
_ pkg. Phyllo Pastry
2 Tbsp. Dried Bread Crumbs
_ Cup Butter


Marinade the seal with wine, garlic, onion & mushrooms for 1 hour. Melt _ cup of butter. Brown the seal meat in the second _ cup of butter, adding all the marinade ingredients.

Let the seal meat cool. Unwrap the phyllo pastry and cut in half horizontally. Separate the sheets, spread with the melted butter, sprinkle lightly with bread crumbs, continue until 3 layers. Place 4 oz. Of mix in lower centre of pastry and fold into triangles, making sure there are no holes to let filling escape.

Brush package with butter & bake in 375 degree oven for 15 minutes or until pastry is golden brown. Serve with garnish of potato crisp, red onion, and cranberries or partridgeberries.

Marinated
Seal Escallops
(Serves 6)

2 lb. Seal Loin Cut into 2 oz. Portions
1 Marinade Recipe
6 Tsp. Olive Oil
_ Cup Partridge Berries
2 Tsp. Flour

Marinade Recipe:
Put seal meat in marinade for up to 4 hours. Remove and sauté in hot olive oil. Remove to serving platter when browned and cooked through (approx. 4-6 minutes). Keep warm.

Mix flour with 1 cup of marinade and deglaze the frying pay. Add the partridgeberries and let sauce reduce in half.

Pour sauce over seal meat and serve with roast potatoes and steaming vegetables.

Mr. Sandman 06-04-2004 10:34 AM

I agree with BW...Since the seal was protected they have overwhlemed many of our beaches. it is time to RE_OPEN the hunting season for seals. Clubb, guns knives...whatever menthods...it is time to thin the heard.

You seal lovers...these things eat 25# bass like a snickers bars all day. Wait till BW checks out Muskeget Island, a buddy was out that wat not to long ago and said it was "paved" with seals.

Selective nuking is OK with me.


These recipes are funny. Someone was pissed about the beach closures last summer for the plover and he had a recipe for plover in the newpaper. The tree huggers came down on that guy like the wrath of God! They all took it seriously.

BW, mount a SEAL HEAD on the hood of your truck, like the texas boys do with steer horns. That should stir things up out there...eh?

S-Journey 06-04-2004 10:46 AM

Bet they wpuld make great chum....


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