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Saltheart 05-02-2005 09:39 PM

Jigs , the weapon of choice at the canal.
 
We are finally getting our act together and getting ready to fish the canal in 2 or 3 fridays from now.

We poured about 450 3 OZ jigs. For these we carved out a do=it mold to accept some Mustad 8/0 34184 hooks. The mold calls for 7/0 but the 8/0 is miles bigger and stronger so we prefer them. i also think the gap between the point and the shaft is bigger on the 8/0 and that leads to better sticks. A typical do-it ball jig mold for 3 OZ won't completely close on an 8/0 hook so we use a dremel and a burr to open up the shank slot and the eye hole.

3 OZ balls are my bread and butter at the canal when I'm casting way up current and bouncing them down. If you control the angle and work the line slack from the cast well , you can get a 3 OZ down in most currents.


We also cast about 100 4 OZ balls. Same hook but that mold accepts the 8/0 no problem. I'm not sure what my new super casting rod will like so I want to be sure to have the heavier 4 OZ balls on hand. The 4 OZ balls I like to cast up just mayne 30 degrees to the current. Then I start feeding ouit line by freespooling (just a little thumb to sytay out of trouble) until they touch down. Yopu got to keep in touch with it while free spooling or you'll snag the bottom because of a slack loop in your line. once that jig gets below a snag do to a loop in the line , its almost impossible to get the jig back. For thsi same technique , i also like 4 OZ smilin Bills.

I find it interestinmg that I love 3 OZ balls but use almost exclusively 4 OZ when they smilin bills are fully dressed with bucktail. They behave very differntly than a bare jig . i almost never do anything but drift them and free spool line like I described above. These I try to cast way out and work a long time trying to drift down the center of the canal , rather than working rips or seams like I do with the 3 OZ balls.


I also carry some 2 OZ balls and 2 OZ bucktails for when its near or during slack. When its totally dead out there , I might do some plugging but dead slack lasts so short a time and with any current at all , I like being on the bottom with a jig.

I also carry some golfball sized 5 OZ jigs for when its realyy cranking. I just don't cast 5 OZ as well as 3 and 4OZ. . Maybe I'm just getting wimpy and don't have the sterngth but I honestly think i don't like the 5's cause the reel spool is hard to hang on to with your thumb when you really lean into a five.

On al the bare jigs I use a rubber tail. my favorite all around is 8 inch curltails. If you got some black and some white 8 inch curltails , I think fish will take them 90% of the time. In the early spring I like fin S fish and in the fall I sometimes like shad bodies but the rest of the season I prefer curltails over everything.


I also always put a curltaail or GS sluggo type jerk on al the fully tied bucktails.

I think on of the biggest reasons some guys don't hook up more at the canal is cause they are over cautious about hooking the bottom and losing the jigs. To do it right , you can't worry about that. get that jig down and stay supper alert. If you lose it , you lose it. Part of the trick is economy on your offering. If you buy 4 OZ jigs at the store with a good hook , they run you about $4.50. Add to that a curltail at about 80 cents and you got $5 on the end of your line with a great chance of losing it to a bottom snag. You really got to tie your own IMO or the economics will force you to be overly causious. I can mold a jig and tie on the bucktail for about a dollar. We buy the curltails about 500 a pop so they run us 25 cents. You can be very brave with only a dollar on the end of your line instead of $5. We also tie our own to get the good hooks.

I use exclusively 34184's. Those are the long shank style jig hook. I think they are better for hook ups than the 34185's because the distance from the point to the jig body is bigger and lets the fish get part of the bony part of his mouth in there. its pretty important to hook a big one in the canal somehwre solid because you'll just lose him if its just flesh do to the extreme pressure a big fish can exert with that current helping him.

Anyway , there's still lots to do. We have no skin jigs yet. those are slow going because of the way you have to mold them but we plan on doing some next week and maybe the week after.


In a given year , I'd say me and Smokie and his brothers and our friends go through about 800 jigs. Its hard to believe so many get used up but that's canall jigging for you.

Next time I get a chance I'll try to write about the differnt rods I build for myself and others for use at the canal. Theres a lot of differnt prefernces in rods between differnt people for doing essentially the same jigging techniques. Its all what people prefer for the vision they have of whats going on out there and how they think about working the water they envision.

Rob Rockcrawler 05-03-2005 12:55 AM

Nice post saltheart.

NIB 05-03-2005 07:14 AM

Nice work Saltheart.Thats alot of jigs.I borred out a few molds in my day almost every do-it mold i have has some of my work on it.recently i been usin a 9/0 3407 wit a brass sinker eylet so i can use a breakaway clip an the hooks are cheaper.its easier to find the old mustads that are better in the 3407 model.I also make my own eyelets outa stainless but its a pain.But they don't bend over as easily if u bang a rock reelin em in.I also make some wit a big gami siwash 8/0 or 9/0 this is the prefered weapon for me big ass hook that won't bend an goes in easy.I got the ball jig mold this spring an gotta get goin on some.

NIB 05-03-2005 07:17 AM

So how long did u have to look for that one Slip.

BrianS 05-03-2005 07:21 AM

Good post.

I came into a stash of jigs this year. A freind of my grandfathers who swears by them and makes them gave me a bunch. I plan on giving them a good try.

He doesnt use any tail or pork rind... Is it preference or does it make a big difference?

Squibby17 05-03-2005 04:15 PM

Canal
 
I went down to the Canal Sunday night mostly to try my new rod. I was surprised to see herring running up the creek near the traffic light on the main land side. Anyway I thought their were no stripers untill i saw one over 30' long swim right in front of me. unfortunatley my efforts were fruitless. The spot should heat up in days not weeks.

MikeTLive 05-03-2005 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squibby17
over 30' long

OVER THIRTY FEET!!!!!!
... D-A-M-N-!-!-!

--- I am reminded of stonehenge in SpinalTap!

fishaholic18 05-03-2005 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeTLive
OVER THIRTY FEET!!!!!!
... D-A-M-N-!-!-!

--- I am reminded of stonehenge in SpinalTap!

Dude..I saw the fish!!! :smokin: :smokin:

BobT 05-03-2005 06:16 PM

OK..........thirty foot bass. Now that's a fish story. :buds:

Squibby17 05-04-2005 10:41 AM

OKAY SORRY guys a "thirty inch" striped bass swam in front of me, I didn't think this site was so gramatically correct, i'llnever make the mistake again

Its too bad I almost fell off the seaweed covered rock I was on when I saw it. My canal fishing ability isn't quite there yet but you have to start some where.

tight lines
squibby17

tynan19 05-04-2005 11:04 AM

Squibby I would suggest you get felt soled boots or korkers for working the shoreline of the canal. That little bit of confidence especially at night goes a long way. Don't take the guys the wrong way they were just joking. Welcome to the site.

fishsmith 05-04-2005 11:06 AM

Good post thanks Saltheart,
I understand that losing gear is a given at the ditch.
Do you pass up the sensitivity of braid for the cost efficiency of mono?
Or is your lines breakpoint at the leader ?

Canalman 05-04-2005 11:39 AM

Saltheart,

Where do you buy your curlytails?

-Dave

Saltheart 05-04-2005 01:42 PM

I use 50 pound Cortland Spectron at the Ditch. My set up is designed to fail at the jig not first , the leader knot second then in the spectron which I hope never happens but does sometimes when you get the line wrapped around something instead of just simply getting the jig stuck on the bottom.

I buy most of the curltails at the off season fishing shows like MSBA or RISSA , etc.

The question about the use of tail;s. Its certainly optional but I think i get better results using a tail on the bucktail jigs. Of course on the bare jigs you got to put something on there. I doubt they will bite a bare jig very often.

Mr. Sandman 05-05-2005 09:22 AM

Outside of the canal fishermen, I find few guys fish bucktails. I even asked in the tackle shops and got a not-too-may guys fish them here. The charter guys troll them on wire but few others use them. It is a shame because it is a very productive way to fish deeper waters or strong moving water. Last spring I was invited on a inpromptu trip to fish dusk on a friends boat. I always bring my own rod, reel, small-med soft tackle bag, and life vest and foul weather gear when I go on anyones boat. (have to have my own stuff..)
I convered 4 others just how effective bucktails can be after boating my 6th to their 0th. All had white curly tail grubs or if there are blues around I will go to porkrind. The key was the depth and position in the rip, once you got the jig in the right spot it wasn't long before on nabbed it.

You can control the depth and sink rate with different heads and tail combos. It really is a bit of an "art" to fish them. When you find the right head/tail combo, along with the right retrieve rate, you can keep the jig at the perfect depth and you know it is there. It is a lot of fun to fish them.

The next time I went out with that fellow later in the season, I noticed he had a big LOAD of bucktails and a bag of curlytails :hihi:

Where I live you don't loose as many as the way you guy fish the rip-rap ladden canal. I would like to see the canal drained just to see whats snagged on the bottom. Must be a million # of lead.


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