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JohnR 08-31-2005 01:47 PM

How many
 
How many thousands of dead on this storm? This tragedy in the gulf? OUR Gulf?

eelman 08-31-2005 01:49 PM

New Orleans Mayor: Hundreds Dead
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BREAKING NEWS: The mayor of New Orleans says hundreds -- maybe thousands -- of the city's residents died in Hurricane Katrina



Alot more than we know

outfished 08-31-2005 02:25 PM

And where's all the help from the other countries that we've helped lately? Not even one offer! :realmad:

eelman 08-31-2005 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by outfished
And where's all the help from the other countries that we've helped lately? Not even one offer! :realmad:

Not true, germany and great britan both etended offers of any help they can give

spence 08-31-2005 02:29 PM

Just made a donation via redcross.org :kewl:

Have you?

-spence

Nebe 08-31-2005 02:31 PM

no way... thousands??? holly cripes :(

Slipknot 08-31-2005 02:33 PM

When is France going to offer help? :doh:

outfished 08-31-2005 02:36 PM

I would expect that from Britain, but Germany? Way to go and send beer! :kewl:

Mike P 08-31-2005 03:06 PM

We have never seen the structural devastation of an entire major city, like this, in our history. Galveston around the turn of the century pales by comparison, as does the explosion of the munitions ship down in Texas City way back when.

I doubt a small yield nuclear bomb would have caused the same structural devastation as New Orleans has suffered. At least people will be able to return after the recovery, which may not be the best thing. Because another huge storm is almost a statistical certainty to recur there during the lifetime of some of the younger residents.

The lesson that should be learned is that no matter how much you prepare and try to defend against it, there are some places that are inherent death traps in a storm of this magnitutde. The Big Easy is one of them. Civil engineers and disaster experts have been predicting something like this for as long as I can remember. City planners put their faith in a dubious levee system that they thought "should" hold against a Cat 3 storm. :rollem:

Camille, Andrew and Ivan were wake-up calls, but no one in NO answered the phone :doh:

One of these days, a strong Cat 3 is gonna pinwheel up our way and make people rethink the wisdom of living on level ground (let alone on low lying ground) within a mile or so of the coastline :( It is almost a sure thing to happen in the lifetime of many of us.

Iwannakeeper 08-31-2005 03:14 PM

Some land is best left for nature.

Seems pretty clear the big easy is one of those places.

outfished 08-31-2005 03:20 PM

The Army Corps of Engineers are mostly to blame for creating that levy system that now is wreaking havoc in the delta. I read a report that if the area had been left alone to let vegetation like the mangroves and trees grow there, the extent of the damage would've not been as high. Your right, people should not be living there and I firmly believe they should not be allowed to rebuild in such high risk areas. Look at the amount of silt that gets deposited at the mouth of the mississippi because of the levy system, it's an ecological disaster.

MakoMike 08-31-2005 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by outfished
And where's all the help from the other countries that we've helped lately? Not even one offer! :realmad:

Check this out for some offers so far: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050831/...rina_world_hk4

JohnR 08-31-2005 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by outfished
The Army Corps of Engineers are mostly to blame for creating that levy system that now is wreaking havoc in the delta. I read a report that if the area had been left alone to let vegetation like the mangroves and trees grow there, the extent of the damage would've not been as high. Your right, people should not be living there and I firmly believe they should not be allowed to rebuild in such high risk areas. Look at the amount of silt that gets deposited at the mouth of the mississippi because of the levy system, it's an ecological disaster.

The ACoE and FEMA have also stated that the system needed to be greatly enhanced but were given only part of the funding to do so.

As much as I feel for many of the residents all over I am upset that people need to loot (essentials I can understand) but the people that had the means and did not leave not only endangered themsevles but the rescue personal and disaster recovery from doing their jobs...

fishaholic18 08-31-2005 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Iwannakeeper
Some land is best left for nature.

Seems pretty clear the big easy is one of those places.

My thoughts exactly.
Don't mess with nature! You'll loose every time.
The dumba$$es will rebuilt it spendind billions of our $$$ just to have it destroyed again. I say give it back to the ocean, let it be.

Homerun04 08-31-2005 06:27 PM

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When is France going to offer help?
Never.........f**k the frogs............

Bliz 08-31-2005 06:34 PM

The news media is NOT reporting the full extent of the damage on this...

Mississippi was devastated by this all the way up though the state.

Media sources are not reporting the full extent of the damage.

Squid kids Dad 08-31-2005 06:43 PM

I work for an insurance company as an appraiser that does a lot of business in that area..I find out Friday if I am going down...Initiall word is it wont be for at leasts 2 weeks...I shall see...It is so freaking unbelieveable... :uhoh:

MakoMike 09-01-2005 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Homerun04
Never.........f**k the frogs............

They already have
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/france_us...kxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Homerun04 09-01-2005 08:47 AM

I'd love to see a complete listing of all the countries chipping in (AND I MEAN MONEY AS WELL) for relief............


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