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JHABS 05-19-2006 07:10 PM

Secrets of Large Bass
 
Along the Eastern Seaboard a Select group of anglers ( some young and some old) Year after Year produce Documented Monster Bass from the Surf. A few of these gents have been around before most of us were born and are still going strong. Whats the Secret. Please share your thoughts.............................

tattoobob 05-19-2006 07:15 PM

They do there homework, and have time to fish alot of nights, 7 nights a week, they know where the structure is and what tides/times to fish them.
some have old timers to show them the ropes other do it on there own. it just takes them longer

Skitterpop 05-19-2006 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tattoobob
They do there homework, and have time to fish alot of nights, 7 nights a week, they know where the structure is and what tides/times to fish them.
some have old timers to show them the ropes other do it on there own. it just takes them longer

What the guy above said....spots, times, tides plus experience.

Sea Dangles 05-20-2006 12:06 AM

My secret is in your backyard.GET BACK TO PAINTING BOY!!!It's time.

Pt.JudeJoe 05-20-2006 12:51 AM

Well , they must read the Pro-Jo fishing report and go to secret spots.

NIB 05-20-2006 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JHABS
A few of these gents have been around before most of us were born and are still going strong. Whats the Secret. Please share your thoughts.............................

High fiber diet.
:D

riarcher 05-20-2006 05:30 AM

Insomnia? :smash:

Karl F 05-20-2006 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JHABS
Along the Eastern Seaboard a Select group of anglers ( some young and some old) Year after Year produce Documented Monster Bass from the Surf. A few of these gents have been around before most of us were born and are still going strong. Whats the Secret. Please share your thoughts.............................

I have the pleasure of knowing a couple... the secret is.. wish I knew. :) Yes, they put their time in, know more about the forage for bass, than most others will ever know about bass. They know tides, moon phases, weather patterns, etc. Barometric pressure changes, affect them first,... they just know in their bones. they know that some beaches will produce at a certain tide, certain bar, for maybe 20 minutes, to half an hour, then they will move, before the fish do, so they can be at the next feeding station.
They pay a high price, professionaly, personally, for their passion for the surf, some will even tell you, in a reflective moment, that they regret ever taking up surf fishing for stripers, as they have suffered family relationships, and jobs for it. They are truly "Hard Core". I think the "secret" is that fishing for them, comes first and foremost. First over wives, kids, jobs, bills, everything.
That is the price they pay for their "secret". There might be some that can balance, "normal life" (whatever that is), and "Hard Core, Pure Fishing", but I have yet to meet one.

capesams 05-20-2006 05:18 PM

simple::if you live where you have friend's in these area's.I've used these before, so have other's.cheating? no!just another fishing tool.


#1.plane's...siteseeing/tuna spotter's



#2.local comm. fish pier

#3.local dive shop

did I win a prize ? or just piss off some local ledgend somewhere .

Skitterpop 05-20-2006 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by capesams
simple::if you live where you have friend's in these area's.I've used these before, so have other's.cheating? no!just another fishing tool.
#1.plane's...siteseeing/tuna spotter's

#2.local comm. fish pier

#3.local dive shop

did I win a prize ? or just piss off some local ledgend somewhere .

Yes for honesty and perception...send me a lure please :hee:

CANAL RAT 05-20-2006 06:15 PM

whats mentioned above and lots of luck

capesams 05-20-2006 07:16 PM

There were two local ledgend's here long before the internet came along..These two would wait till the cover of darkness then slip into their boat and head into pleasent bay.Before first lite, they come ashore and head to the local fishmarket with hundred's of lb's of fish.Folk's would stop by in the morning at this market to see what was dropped off. There would be a huge pile of fish with the same two names nite after nite....Where? How? Boy these guy's are good......got gillnet? they were never caught....the moral of this story is if you dig deep enough into SOME of these ledgend's you'll find something fishy going on.

MikeToole 05-20-2006 08:13 PM

1. They make sure their tackle is in top working order at all times.
2. They concentrate their fishing in big fish areas. They are willing to fish areas where they may catch only a few fish but have an increased chance of catching a large fish. They will travel to the areas where the bigger fish are based on the migration season. It's more important to be where the fish are then to know an area inside out.
3. Learn how to fish the plugs or baits that are known to work on big fish in a given area. Eels, live or rigged, being number one. Jigs in fast water areas and swimmers and needlefish in the surf to note a few. Need to have faith in what your using to the point where your always thinking the next cast might be the one.
4. A small group of good fishermen willing to share information and work together is a great asset. This was an invaluable asset when I was a kid surf fishing the Jersey coast in the 60s. Today with the advent of the cell phone it's even better.
5. Fish every chance you get.

Goose 05-20-2006 08:23 PM

I bet their jobs/life style's allow them to fish harder then most. I hope dudes like tat spend at least half the time they do with their kids as they do after big fish,,, Being a father/husband should be first, I've been guilty. If your job involves hard labor then your body can only put up with so much before break down,,no sleep ect. ect. I bet most of those guys have jobs that allows them to fish or are atleast flexiable

striperjerk1 05-21-2006 06:09 AM

{ A small group of good fishermen willing to share information and work together is a great asset. This was an invaluable asset when I was a kid surf fishing the Jersey coast in the 60s. Today with the advent of the cell phone it's even better.}
fish whisperer, via the telephone.

Back Beach 05-21-2006 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl F
I have the pleasure of knowing a couple... the secret is.. wish I knew. :) Yes, they put their time in, know more about the forage for bass, than most others will ever know about bass. They know tides, moon phases, weather patterns, etc. Barometric pressure changes, affect them first,... they just know in their bones. they know that some beaches will produce at a certain tide, certain bar, for maybe 20 minutes, to half an hour, then they will move, before the fish do, so they can be at the next feeding station.
They pay a high price, professionaly, personally, for their passion for the surf, some will even tell you, in a reflective moment, that they regret ever taking up surf fishing for stripers, as they have suffered family relationships, and jobs for it. They are truly "Hard Core". I think the "secret" is that fishing for them, comes first and foremost. First over wives, kids, jobs, bills, everything.
That is the price they pay for their "secret". There might be some that can balance, "normal life" (whatever that is), and "Hard Core, Pure Fishing", but I have yet to meet one.

Exactly :uhuh:

Smellfish 05-21-2006 08:20 AM

They ask "Iron Mike" .............

westhavendave 05-21-2006 09:46 AM

Living near the beach helps. Alot.

CANAL RAT 05-21-2006 11:17 AM

cows dont care much for plastic or wood so use live bait or chunks

numbskull 05-21-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JHABS
Along the Eastern Seaboard a Select group of anglers ( some young and some old) Year after Year produce Documented Monster Bass from the Surf........ Please share your thoughts.............................

The best fisherman I know don't "Document" anything. They keep quiet about it.

Mike P 05-21-2006 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CANAL RAT
cows dont care much for plastic or wood so use live bait or chunks

Is that a fact? :doh: :rollem:

CANAL RAT 05-21-2006 04:50 PM

big old bass get that way by not being caught or getting caught and released(which is very likely),think about it a 50lb striper is around 18 years old this old lady has seen everything from rigged eels to danny plugs.but in a sense when your fishing with bait your not tricking the bass into striking like with a plug,you are feeding the bass with a chunk of mackeral or a live pogy or eel which they will take down in a heart beat.

Duke41 05-21-2006 04:58 PM

big bait = big fish

Mike P 05-21-2006 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CANAL RAT
big old bass get that way by not being caught or getting caught and released(which is very likely),think about it a 50lb striper is around 18 years old this old lady has seen everything from rigged eels to danny plugs.but in a sense when your fishing with bait your not tricking the bass into striking like with a plug,you are feeding the bass with a chunk of mackeral or a live pogy or eel which they will take down in a heart beat.

Whatever you say :rollem:

ProfessorM 05-21-2006 08:39 PM

You should ask stiff tip about the 50 plus lb. fish in the canal that ate his plug many years ago.

Mike P 05-21-2006 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Moriarty
You should ask stiff tip about the 50 plus lb. fish in the canal that ate his plug many years ago.

Or, you could ask Al McReynolds, Tony Stetzko, or Charlie Cinto, all of whom took 70#+ fish on lures (Stetzko's even hit a teaser fly instead of the live eel that was on the same leader), or Tim Coleman and Iron Mike who have multiple 60s on wood.

tattoobob 05-21-2006 09:53 PM

Frank Daignault, 7 stripers over fifty on plugs or rigged eels, and countless amount of 40 pounders. It doesn't take any skill to use bait it's all luck. Tony C. last year caught a 62.5 on a Habs Jointed Neddle

Skitterpop 05-22-2006 04:40 AM

I like to duct tape chunks onto my plugs :humpty:

Slipknot 05-22-2006 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Professor Moriarty
You should ask stiff tip about the 50 plus lb. fish in the canal that ate his plug many years ago.

technically the plug belonged to falptail and stifftip hoed it to fish with after seeing Steve nail bass after bass on it.



how about this for cow bait? :hihi: courtesy of Striperknight

jim sylvester 05-22-2006 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot
technically the plug belonged to falptail and stifftip hoed it to fish with after seeing Steve nail bass after bass on it.



how about this for cow bait? :hihi: courtesy of Striperknight


that is awesome


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