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Bigcat 07-12-2006 06:21 PM

poaching and the striper cup
 
Rumor has it one of the big guns was busted last night for poaching?

likwid 07-12-2006 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigcat
Rumor has it one of the big guns was busted last night for poaching?

oops!

striprman 07-12-2006 06:35 PM

scuppers ?

NEXT2NUN 07-12-2006 07:02 PM

http://www.stripersonline.com/surfta...d.php?t=493674

UserRemoved1 07-12-2006 07:03 PM

rut rooooo

Skitterpop 07-12-2006 07:17 PM

Ouch
 
:call: ...:cputin: ....:liquify: ....

:lasso: ......:hang:......... :faga: ........:behead: .............:whackin:

JoeP 07-12-2006 07:37 PM

:mad: :mad: Really nice. Poaching, cheating, whatever - the guy is now a fraud in my book. I don't care how big the fish he caught were.

There should be a legal way to ban guys like that from even touching a rod & reel again.

I hate poachers!!

kippy 07-12-2006 07:38 PM

Anyone know if he will be dq'd from the tournament?

Skitterpop 07-12-2006 07:59 PM

Its in the works...looks inevitable....buh bye :wiggle:

clambelly 07-12-2006 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeP
:mad: :mad: Really nice. Poaching, cheating, whatever - the guy is now a fraud in my book. I don't care how big the fish he caught were.

There should be a legal way to ban guys like that from even touching a rod & reel again.

I hate poachers!!

the 50's he caught are still quite an accomplishment..
however....
i agree. the guy is a fraud. he was trying to line his pockets with a few more bucks. im a commercial fisherman and this guys actions make me sick. he gives all honest, hardworking, lawabiding commercial fisherman a bad name.
they should have confiscated his boat/gear/truck.
poaching lobsters will get you a much heaftier fine/punishment, why is bass any less???
he should be banned for life from the OTW tournament.
he should have his commercial licence revoked immediately.
:liquify: :liquify: :liquify:

striprman 07-12-2006 08:01 PM

Keel haul him and hang him from the mizzen topgallant mast.

spence 07-12-2006 08:10 PM

Let me get this straight.

A very large corporate sponsored competition with big prizes and little oversight...

SOMEONE IS CAUGHT CHEATING

And people are suprised?

-spence

Slipknot 07-12-2006 08:12 PM

The problem is he is not the only one doing this jumpstart thing before the comm season starts, plenty of them do it :( . He got caught. And good for the EPO's for doing their job, why just a citation though? :huh: can't they confiscate his equipment? I hope they caught more of them.

I hope this thread doesn't go the wrong way and start bashing some guy because of a rumor on another website.

Mike P 07-12-2006 08:14 PM

Tell me how his cheating in any way increased his chances of winning a major prize. Unless you consider a trophy as a major prize.

There are no cash prizes, and the grand prizes are going to be awarded by a luck-of-the-draw raffle at the closing beer fest.

Slipknot 07-12-2006 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clambelly
the 50's he caught are still quite an accomplishment..
however....
i agree. the guy is a fraud. he was trying to line his pockets with a few more bucks. im a commercial fisherman and this guys actions make me sick. he gives all honest, hardworking, lawabiding commercial fisherman a bad name.
they should have confiscated his boat/gear/truck.
poaching lobsters will get you a much heaftier fine/punishment, why is bass any less???
he should be banned for life from the OTW tournament.
he should have his commercial licence revoked immediately.
:liquify: :liquify: :liquify:

yep, I agree

Can't they atleast revoke his Comm bass license?

spence 07-12-2006 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike P
Tell me how his cheating in any way increased his chances of winning a major prize.

• Monthly Winners (5) -Heaviest Striper Each Month
Will be eligible to win the Grand Prize 4 x 4

-spence

JoeP 07-12-2006 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence
Let me get this straight.

A very large corporate sponsored competition with big prizes and little oversight...

SOMEONE IS CAUGHT CHEATING

And people are suprised?

-spence

No surprise - that's part of the problem with this tourney to begin with. I'm sure there is other cheating going on.

Slipknot 07-12-2006 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence
• Monthly Winners (5) -Heaviest Striper Each Month
Will be eligible to win the Grand Prize 4 x 4

-spence


so are you speculating that he may have higraded or something with those 50's since he seems to have been caught poaching the night before comm season?
it's up the OTW to determine that kind of thing I would imagine.

but you are correct, winning as many of the monthly's as you can will increase your chances at the 4x4

The contest should disqualify dishonest people IMO but like I said, it's up the OTW I'd imagine.

striprman 07-12-2006 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slipknot
so are you speculating that he may have higraded or something with those 50's since he seems to have been caught poaching the night before comm season?
it's up the OTW to determine that kind of thing I would imagine.

Everything is now suspect.

spence 07-12-2006 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slipknot
so are you speculating that he may have higraded or something with those 50's since he seems to have been caught poaching the night before comm season?
it's up the OTW to determine that kind of thing I would imagine.

Who knows...but (assuming it's true) if someone isn't on the level anything is open to question :hs:

-spence

Slipknot 07-12-2006 08:31 PM

His name is Major Mud now:eyes:

Roger 07-13-2006 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike P
Tell me how his cheating in any way increased his chances of winning a major prize. Unless you consider a trophy as a major prize.

Unfortunately, for many people the recognition is more important than cash or prizes. Ego is a powerful motivator. It'd be nice if it were not that way, but it is what it is.

Like I've written before, tournaments bring out the worst in people. I've seen people do things that I would not have believed if I had not been there - for no money. I believe it's naive to think that a poacher would not have cheated in the competition by culling, fishing outside the 3 mi limit, etc.

BigFish 07-13-2006 07:24 AM

Major Jack A$$ is more like it! Nice that a scumbag has been outed!:kewl:

reelecstasy 07-13-2006 07:25 AM

See ya, I have no respect for cheaters. Without a doubt he should be DQ

JohnR 07-13-2006 07:53 AM

No real suprise this has happened if it is in fact truth - which will come out in due course.

OTW should look into this and when the details are in, do the right thing. So far I think they have been doing the right thing when concerns are brought to them, the rules for example.

Curious to see how this plays out...

ProfessorM 07-13-2006 09:28 AM

Should take his license for a few years, at the least, to teach him and anyone else a lesson. A citation, give me a break. I'm sure this is the first time he ever did it.:bl: There called rules for a reason. Not fair to the majority who follow them. I know plenty do it and will continue too until the know there is a penalty. And still some will continue. You got to keep the honest people honest. As far as the OTW thing if they allow this guy to continue in their tournament and he is guilty of this charge than they are wrong in my book. I am sure they will do the right thing to his standings in the tourney.:behead: P.

vineyardblues 07-13-2006 09:33 AM

Ya what Paul said ........................geeszzzz

ps. and I still like #^&#^&#^&#^& Hathaway....more to that story but thats for another day :shocked:
VB

Skitterpop 07-13-2006 10:08 AM

I must admit
 
I really have caught numerous Striped Bass in the 30 to 50 lb range since entering the contest but have been too humble and shy to admit so or enter them :laughs:


Major #^&#^&#^&#^&

numbskull 07-13-2006 10:20 AM

Just curious, what does a citation mean in this situation? Will he have to appear in court? Just pay a fine? Loose his license? How much bite does the law have for this kind of stuff?

DZ 07-13-2006 10:31 AM

Wow – is anyone really surprised at this? Many discussions were held about this tourney before it started – and to OTWs credit they revised it to help alleviate a potential and somewhat perceived large “dead fish tournament”.

Now seeing how popular it has become I have to say I’m disappointed in our recreational striped bass fishing community as a whole. Even my own club agreed to enter the tourney and some of our members are participating. When I read the leader board I hurt inside as I tally up the pounds of quality bass killed – for the mere sake of a pin in some cases.

In my opinion a pin-hooker shouldn’t be participating in this tourney – and it would also be naive to think that a majority of the bass entered into this event are not also going to market. I have nothing against commercial sale, as long as it’s done legally, but we all know that strange things are done for a buck…

I am encouraged however by some of the younger guys I’ve been able to influence, they’ve taken some real nice fish that were eligible for this tourney, and released them alive. And they feel good about it. Congrats to them. I’m proud of you.

Keep the “catch and release” concept alive, especially for the cows.

“Limit your kill, don’t kill your limit”

DZ


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