Political Jabbering
 

It's funny how for so long I didn't even read the scuppers and now that I do, I've found this whole new breed of ball busters and people whose balls I can bust. I just wonder how many of you guys Dem or Rep take this stuff REALLY seriously? Now I don't mean allegence to your country or your political beliefs, I mean these posts. I sit here at work and laugh my @$$ off, at the stuff we all say. Obviously, (I'm sure :laughs: ) I'm not a Bush fan and not really thrilled with the way the reps have been working things. But as scary as some of what has unfolded throughout these last 6 PAINFUL years :tooth: (damn rednecks :laughs: ) have been, I still look at this whole thing as an 8 year joke that will soon be over. So for the most part I take this stuff as a joke; lightly. How about the rest of you guys, what are your thoughts?

BTW, thanks for the political forum John, but I think we should rename it Politcal Battleground... treehuggers vs. rednecks or something like that.

-Dave (The Elitist)

I'm deadly serious...and nearly always right.

People like Bronko can KMA :bshake:

-spence

Wow... this was clearly and unprovoked attack! :lasso:


John, shut the forum down.:D

I guess that answers my question... I'm glad that you guys take it light-heartedly... :chatter

I, for one do not. I take everything that I read on the internet as Gospel. I have had countless sleepless nights and literally have had to cry myself to sleep after reading the unabashed rantings of both Spence and Skip N. They have permanently damaged my fragile Psyche.

Now this board is telling me there is no God....what next, is nothing sacred.

Why don't you just tell me that Car Salesman aren't Hionest or that Wrestling isn't real and just get it over with.

Curse you Al Gore for creating this Vile Medium.....Curse You:bc:

Ok, now I'm really being serious.

If you ever, and I mean EVER use my name again with Skippy's to in any way allude there's some parity, some equal nature, some mutal net worth...

I'm really going to blow. JohnR did it once and I nearly shut down his server...remember, I'm on the inside :spidey:

-spence

I'm Sorry.....it will never happen again

You should feel honored to have your name mentioned in the same breathe as mine :tooth:

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but it was bad breath .....:jester:

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Good post Dave, truthfully, I do take it seriously. I REALLY like to debate and read others views. I may take a strong stance , just to get opinions out there. I am troubled by some of teh viewpoints from people who appear to be rational and intelligent. I think this anti-Bush focused view that is evident in peoples post is a sampling of the country. An although it may be accurate, I belevie that the REAL threat of islamic terrorism is being overlooked as fear mongering sponsored by the Bush adminstration. I beleive that my family and way of life is threatened by people who want to kill me, veryday, everywhere I go. I do not live in fear ar all, but I want to make sure my government is doing EVERTHING it can to protect my way of life. We are WAY to Dem vs. Repub and we are losing sight of the real issues. Sorry fro the rant.

Sounds like a paranoia.

-spence

Thanks for making my point.

Not really. Sorry to be so preachy but I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding as to why Islamic terrorim exists.

-spence

From OBL
The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim.

Every Muslim, from the moment they realize the distinction in their hearts, hates Americans, hates Jews and hates Christians. For as long as I can remember, I have felt tormented and at war, and have felt hatred and animosity for Americans

I can paste pages, I dont need to UNDERSTAND why.

The most relevant point is it exists.

If you don't know why it exists how can you defeat it?

-spence

I had a hornets nest under my pool cabana eaves. I dont know why they chose to build there, but I killed them and they are gone. If they come back I will kill them again.

Excellent, let's start the genocide then...because that's what it's gonna take using that methodology.

-spence

And without historical context they would be pretty meaningless.

Bin Laden doesn't hate Americans for some silly or religious reason like our freedoms etc... His anger is because of how he percieves our policy negatively impacts the Islamic world.

-spence

I have no intention of exterminating a species. Only the ones that pose a threat.

Given the nature of the problem this poses quite a problem.

Trying to kill terrorists in a direct manner has proven to simply produce more net terrorists.

Terrorisim is empowered by the mainstream, and there lies the solution.

-spence

If not for religious reasons then why is Islam cited in every single communication from Bin Laden and every other Islamic Terrorist? You actually believe its clear logic that drives him? Sorry we dont buy it.

Because that's how religious Islamic people communicate, It's part of the culture.

Bin Laden's reasoning is very clear, he's not crazy. This is an intellectual cop out.

-spence

You call this clear reasoning that explains a lot.

"We should fully understand our religion. Fighting is a part of our religion and our Sharia [an Islamic legal code]. Those who love God and his Prophet and this religion cannot deny that. Whoever denies even a minor tenet of our religion commits the gravest sin in Islam."

It's called RHETORIC.

Compared to what passes as policy from our own politicians I'd say it's quite reasoned.

-spence

we've been down this road 1000 times before.

news flash Spence,,,,people BLOW THEMSELVES UP becasue of teh religious foundation of their beliefs, not so their kids can have a better life, not so there are more jobs, not becuase they are depressed.

Actually this has been researched quite heavily in the most terror prone place on the planet...Palestine.

About 20% of Palestenian suicide bombers are thought to be Islamists. The vast majority are quite normal people who see no other course in life because of rage, humiliation and despair.

-spence

show me that research