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luds 01-16-2007 02:52 PM

Van Staal Plug Bag- FYI
 
I was considering giving the new Van Staal double row bag a shot because it seems to have lighter tubes than the skinz bag. The tubes look less durable but I think that's too be expected with the decrease in weight.

Anyway, I called to inquire about the cost of replacing the tubes and it's $63 and change.:confused:

WTF. I've never complained about the price of my VS reels and won't but 63 bucks for some plastic inserts.:huh: C'mon.:wall:

Figured I give you guys a heads up before purchasing one.

Score another one for the Skinz single row. That's all I'll be using.

vanstaal 01-16-2007 02:57 PM

canyon make a good bag ?? iIwas thinking the same thing its kind of cheaply made the VS bag

luds 01-16-2007 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanstaal (Post 451424)
canyon make a good bag ?? iIwas thinking the same thing its kind of cheaply made the VS bag

I think you could be in trouble if you take a spill with the canyon bag. It doesn't have the amount of velcro or the buckle like the skinz.

I was only considering the VS bag because sometimes I feel like I need a little more space than the single row skinz bag. I know 5 tubes is all i should need but I like to carry alot of plugs. The skinz double row is just a little to heavy for me to keep over my shoulder when I'm pluggin. It is definately the best made bag. I've had mine for 3 seasons.

GattaFish 01-16-2007 03:05 PM

I was in Lowes the other day and they had these florescent bulb covers that were 6ft+ long clear plastic tubes I was thinking of chopping up for a plug bag ,,, they were not super heavy but might be ok,,,,,,, You might want to check them out next time your in a Lowes near you,,,,,, under $10,,,,

The Dad Fisherman 01-16-2007 03:10 PM

Got this tip off this site earlier......Central Vacuum Tubing. They sell it at some Homey's and it only $4 an 8 foot section....more durable than the Flo light tubes but not as thick as the PVC pipe

spence 01-16-2007 03:11 PM

If you're interested, I've got one of the two row Canyon bags in excellent condition that I've attached a buckle strap around so it locks closed like the Aquaskinz bag. Mostly used to store plugs in my car, I didn't really use it in the surf.

And it now belongs to MAC :)

-spence

Mugz 01-16-2007 03:12 PM

Yes, I have seen the stuff (and used it).......Same isle they sell the shop vacs. Thin stuff and stronger than clear flimsy plastic. The Central Vac tubing

jim sylvester 01-16-2007 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 451433)
Got this tip off this site earlier......Central Vacuum Tubing. They sell it at some Homey's and it only $4 an 8 foot section....more durable than the Flo light tubes but not as thick as the PVC pipe

good stuff, build your own

t.orlando 01-16-2007 03:54 PM

I swap the heavy tubes out for the thin/lite ones.

Rockport24 01-16-2007 03:56 PM

that's almost as bad as $20 for a telephone cord lanyard that you can make at home for $3

vanstaal 01-16-2007 04:02 PM

i have trouble with my long needles fish which bag do u guys suggests
that will take care of them sticking out ?

luds 01-16-2007 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 451433)
Got this tip off this site earlier......Central Vacuum Tubing. They sell it at some Homey's and it only $4 an 8 foot section....more durable than the Flo light tubes but not as thick as the PVC pipe

I was thinking about making my own. How do you close off the bottom of the tubes so plugs don't get stuck?

I was going to stick the vs tubes in the skinz bag if they fit. I figured the insert would be cheap.

pops 01-16-2007 04:09 PM

I ordere the square lure storage tubes from nj tackle ...clear tape them together ...punch drain holes and done $ 1 per tube..they expand so you can easily play around with double entries lol [ gotta take this & this and thiiis !!:rotfl: ] the inserts i originally recieved with my surfcaster bag were to heavy...for me:doh:

they can crack after a season but for a WHOLE $1 so what.

PaulS 01-16-2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luds48 (Post 451464)
I was thinking about making my own. How do you close off the bottom of the tubes so plugs don't get stuck?

Duct tape - plugs won't fall thru and water still drains out.

jim sylvester 01-16-2007 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 451471)
Duct tape - plugs won't fall thru and water still drains out.

1002 used for deuct tape

luds 01-16-2007 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pops (Post 451468)
I ordere the square lure storage tubes from nj tackle ...clear tape them together ...punch drain holes and done $ 1 per tube..they expand so you can easily play around with double entries lol [ gotta take this & this and thiiis !!:rotfl: ] the inserts i originally recieved with my surfcaster bag were to heavy...for me:doh:

they can crack after a season but for a WHOLE $1 so what.

I was going to go with the nj tubes but they are a little too small.

luds 01-16-2007 04:16 PM

Duck Tape?
 
Seems like vmc hooks would get stuck in duct tape pretty easily but if it works for you guys I guess I'll give it a shot.

The Dad Fisherman 01-16-2007 04:25 PM

You can get the little red caps that they use for the mailer tubes and pop them in or you can go with the end-caps that they use for PVC Plumbing

End Caps

PVC End Caps

Terence 01-16-2007 04:34 PM

Shimano Blue Wave Surf bag is very nice.

pops 01-16-2007 04:49 PM

1 Attachment(s)
how big do you neeed ?

basswipe 01-16-2007 04:58 PM

A lot of good stuff being said about the Shimano bag.
http://fish.shimano.com/catalog/fish...=1168984418492
The price is right anyways.

I just take a BW bag shore it up with some extra Velcro and/or sew on a buckle.

Paying over a bill for a surfbag?Not for me.All it really needs to do is hold the plugs and keep them from falling out while providing drainage.

luds 01-16-2007 05:07 PM

I don't like the flap on that Shimano bag. Lose that and they have a winner.

Pops,

You might be right about the nj tubes. I thought they were much shorter than the skinz tuves but they might only be a quarter inch shorter. I have a couple tubes I home that I can compare.

Pete F. 01-16-2007 05:10 PM

Joe Lyons has some new bags, hav'nt seen them in person but rumours are that they are nice.
You can take the vac tubing and glue it together with PVC cement Then glue a piece of plexi to the bottom and burn some holes in it.
There are also the polycarbonate tubes that the BW bags have in them available somewheres on the net, I did some research once when I was going to make my own bag and then said fugedaboudit and got a skinz.
I think a clever fellow could make a belt holder for long needles out of a piece of PVC downspout, some wood, a little this and that. Would hold those one footers...

luds 01-16-2007 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefishercat (Post 451511)
Joe Lyons has some new bags, hav'nt seen them in person but rumours are that they are nice.

Those bags are great for the money but once again the closure is an issue. Needs more velcro IMO.

Pete_G 01-16-2007 05:30 PM

The new Precision Paks are nice. The SWE has had them for a while, but I don't know anyone who has put a season or even half a season on them yet.

They're untested, as far as I know, at this point.

In The Surf 01-16-2007 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luds48 (Post 451519)
Those bags are great for the money but once again the closure is an issue. Needs more velcro IMO.


The closure is not an issue. That was addressed before he started carrying them. They have just as much if not more velcro as Aquaskinz and VS. They don't get any more secure than that.

luds 01-16-2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In The Surf (Post 451530)
The closure is not an issue. That was addressed before he started carrying them. They have just as much if not more velcro as Aquaskinz and VS. They don't get any more secure than that.


If you're talking about this bag I disagree. There is much mess velcro on these bags from what I've seen. I had one in my hands last weekend.


http://surfcasting-rhodeisland.com/m...tegory_Code=LB

Do you use them?

NIB 01-16-2007 06:21 PM

The bag in the link looks like the single row..
I have seen 3 different sizes of the precison pks bags..Very nice.If I didn't have a Large AS bag a single row VS bag Several canyon bags a Plano bag a VS Coastal bag i would get one..
The big bag comes with 2 plano type boxes,smaller ones that fit in front of the tubes..
Seemed like a real nice bag..Plenty of velcro..Mesh pockest on the side I would probably cut off as mesh can be a pita with hooks..
There's lots of room in there if u take the plano boxes out..
Cost less then the tube replacemnts. for the VS bag..'
As u can tell I have a few bags I change the inserts from one to the next from time to time..
My AS bag is one of the first models.There was no room along side the insert for anything. I like to jam that area with plastics an stuff so I switched it out with a old canyon bag insert..
There is a mailing tube company that makes the tubes the same type tubes that are in the coastal bags..There nice heavy material..Drill a million very small holes in the botton of the tubes..Silicone em together with a wrap of clear plastic mailing tape to hold together while the glue dries..
Small holes don't get hook points in em lots of holes drain the water..
At home fishing sometimes I find it easier to have a nightime bag an a daytime bag..
U can ease this if u make another set of inserts...

Joe 01-16-2007 06:37 PM

The Prec Pak bags now have a 3" wide velcro strip the length of the flap - they did not originally - I did not get them until late in the year but I tell ya - they look really good for the money. They are about the same price as Canyon - but 3X better.
The large bag - for some reason they put two rows of plug tubes and then two Plano boxes - but I'm going to ask the guy about just putting three rows of tubes...

luds 01-16-2007 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe (Post 451554)
The Prec Pak bags now have a 3" wide velcro strip the length of the flap - they did not originally - I did not get them until late in the year but I tell ya - they look really good for the money. They are about the same price as Canyon - but 3X better.
The large bag - for some reason they put two rows of plug tubes and then two Plano boxes - but I'm going to ask the guy about just putting three rows of tubes...

I would love to see that bag without the plano boxes. Like Nib said the medium bag could stand to lose the mesh on the side.


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