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tattoobob 02-19-2007 01:51 PM

Snaps/swivels
 
What do you use

BigFish 02-19-2007 01:54 PM

Spro swivels and breakaway clips! The swivels are 230 pound #2 and the Breakaway's are 80 pound!

eelman 02-19-2007 01:54 PM

None...all tied direct..can get away with that on coventional gear...

tattoobob 02-19-2007 01:57 PM

I know Bill that is what is great about conventional

Larry sizes?

I added a poll

fishaholic18 02-19-2007 02:00 PM

Where's the "None" choice. More terminal tackle=more chance for failure... Line-leader Leader-Hook..Done. Trust ur knots. Never had a failure that way..Swivels break and Snaps open up..No need IMO.

tattoobob 02-19-2007 02:03 PM

I tried to edit it after Bills post but no luck

I have never had a snap open or a swivel come apart or break so far

Knocking on wood now

Mike P 02-19-2007 03:24 PM

I use the bigger Kroks. I like having a big swivel to aim for when I reach for the leader to guide a fish onto the rocks.

The bigger Breakaway clip on the other end for jigs.

Plugs--either a Coastlock 34 or tie direct.

If I'm free drifting chunks, I use a swivel even with conventional. In current, the chunk will "helicopter" and not drift naturally if you don't use a swivel.

The Dad Fisherman 02-19-2007 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 465166)
The bigger Breakaway clip on the other end for jigs.


Mike, what size Breakaway do you use for the Jigs? I can't seem to squeeze them on the 80lb. ones

Mike P 02-19-2007 03:35 PM

The biggest ones. I guess they're the 80s :huh:

They're best used on jigs that have the thin brass hook eye, like the old Ku-Jig Canal special type. Sometimes, certain brands of the Smilin' Bill heads have a very thick eye that makes using any kind of snap hard. If I have to use a jig like that, I tie direct with a loop knot.

Don't be misled by the thin appearance of those clips. I know guys who put incredible pressure on fish into the 40s in that honking current, and who have total confidence in that thing. I used them for the first time last season, all year, and they're still batting 1.000. No failures, not even a hint of damage.

JFigliuolo 02-19-2007 03:46 PM

No. 34 coastlock.
150 lb Rosco swivel
zero issues.

The Dad Fisherman 02-19-2007 03:47 PM

Myself, I love them. I do use the Smilin Bill's and the eye is very thick. I end up just tying direct.

Tagger 02-19-2007 04:15 PM

Been using the breakaway 50's plugging quite a while now .. Never failed me yet on a fish or lost a plug . I like the quick ,,no hassle changing of plugs ,. I think some are tieing them on and using them backwards . I've had brand new hooks open up on fish ,,,clips are good .

BigFish 02-19-2007 04:21 PM

I agree with you Tagger....I think folks tie those Breakaways on backwards....I have almost done it myself a time or two! Its easy to do because unless you are paying 100% attention...both ends look almost alike! I also think if you are seeing alot of action, on occasion those Breakaways can turn around on you with the line sliding from one end to the other....so you have to check them once in awhile. I have never had a problem with them! I frequently change my offering and feel its alot safer than tying a new knot as often as I would have to....now there is where you increase your chances for failure in my opinion.....tie more knots and eventually one may let you down. Just my .02 cents.

bart 02-19-2007 04:47 PM

i like 90# rosco snap swivels with the swivel cut off ( so its just a snap) and 100# rosco swivels

gone fishin 02-19-2007 04:51 PM

Larry hit it right on the head. I use breakaway clips only and have never had one fail me. Ease of changing is always important when you have bad hands. I cannot open a snap due to arthrius and the breakaway is fine. The only time I use a swivel is when the jig is acting strange like coptering, or if I tie a fluro leader to my mono leader. Oh - I only fish conventional.

numbskull 02-19-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tagger (Post 465185)
,. I think some are tieing them on and using them backwards . .

OK, big shot, let's settle this here and now. Winner owes the loser a plug. :rtfm: Is this right or wrong (Brockton guys can't vote)?

parker23 02-19-2007 05:09 PM

I use the Spro #4 and Rosco coastlock. I have not used the breakaway connecters yet. I think I will be placing an order tonight based on the comments above.

snake slinger 02-19-2007 05:11 PM

numby thats wrong

Bill L 02-19-2007 05:13 PM

That clips backwards. I use the 80# Breakaways and the 230# spros

numbskull 02-19-2007 05:14 PM

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Oh Oh, is it too late to delete my other post?

RIROCKHOUND 02-19-2007 05:16 PM

backwards

Bill L 02-19-2007 05:19 PM

I dont think it would matter much though, just a b*tch to change up plugs.

tattoobob 02-19-2007 05:21 PM

Numbskull that clip is on backwards

numbskull 02-19-2007 05:30 PM

Fortunately I got the winner loser thing backwards as well.........seems I won a plug!:hf1: Somebody tell Eddy

Pete F. 02-19-2007 05:41 PM

Always there too late, It's backwards

Bass Babe 02-19-2007 07:04 PM

Breakaways make rubber shad swim funny, or so I've been told and seen. Otherwise, they're fine. I trust them more than I do my knots. I can't get them on my creek chub, though, the eye is too far indented.

Flaptail 02-19-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 465203)
OK, big shot, let's settle this here and now. Winner owes the loser a plug. :rtfm: Is this right or wrong (Brockton guys can't vote)?

Hmmm...I have been tying them on for years like that. The Breakaway guy showed me. He must be wrong too! Well, since I am used to it and have never had one loose a fish for me might as well just keep doing it wrong.:hf1: :laughs: :bl:

jimmy z 02-19-2007 07:22 PM

I use Spro. I like 'em and they work for me.:btu:

ChiefLinesider 02-19-2007 07:31 PM

Rosco 34 Coastlock- Have never had one fail. If it ain't broke....

Spro Power Swivel 230lb #2
(The problem I have found with the smaller spro swivels is the knot tied onto the swivel is always the weak point. I ran some pull tests & it seems the thin gauge of the wire used on the smaller swivels cut the line. The line was practically folded over on itself & the wire acted as a knife edge.)

EricM 02-20-2007 12:22 AM

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Where's the "None" choice. More terminal tackle=more chance for failure... Line-leader Leader-Hook..Done. Trust ur knots. Never had a failure that way..Swivels break and Snaps open up..No need IMO.
Agreed.


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