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riggedeel 03-26-2007 12:10 AM

A-40/7" tail weight?
 
Putting together an A-40, do they need a tail weight? If so what is the general size/wgt for a 7" A-40?

Thanks

BigFish 03-26-2007 07:53 AM

Nope! No tail weight! Experiment with belly weights....also depends on the wood you use! If at first you don't succeed, try, try again!

BigFish 03-26-2007 07:55 AM

Also Canalman (aka Dave Anderson) wrote a nice article on A-40's I think in the Fisherman about 4-5 weeks ago....might want to check it out!

Slipknot 03-26-2007 08:22 AM

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ad.php?t=39492

They can be made with tail weight
I made some without it
tailweight allows them to be casted and fished in rough weather and surf.
ya need to experiment

riggedeel 03-26-2007 10:47 AM

Thanks for the response and the info. guys!

Canalman 03-26-2007 11:32 AM

It depends on wood type... the tail weight will calm down the wiggle if your test version is too wacky, add some tail weight... be carefull not to add too much b/c it can throw off the balance... if your 40's are still too lively with the weight, try widening the tail diameter to help offset the angle that the tailweight might create.

-Dave

justplugit 03-26-2007 11:49 AM

Or ya can reverse 'em, no weight and add a flaptail.

Flaptail 03-26-2007 01:22 PM

Pond made them both ways, the weighted ones were called Fat Atoms. Numbskull can give you the details.

Tagger 03-26-2007 03:32 PM

yup ... tail weighted ones are fatter on the bottom .. more straight line than curved in ... CS told me .. I can see it now . Numby may have pic .

Canalman 03-26-2007 04:01 PM

Never saw one of those... can someone post a pic?

Tagger 03-26-2007 04:12 PM

This one looks weighted
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOM-SALTWATER-S...QQcmdZViewItem

Tagger 03-26-2007 04:13 PM

These look unweighted.. I rewired one so I know they are not..
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-ATOM-SALTWATER...QQcmdZViewItem

Tagger 03-26-2007 04:14 PM

unweighted
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATOM-SALTWATER-S...QQcmdZViewItem

capesams 03-26-2007 04:36 PM

Fisrt pic is weighted,,the other 3 are not....weighted ones were made for trolling....But can be used in the surf like Slip say's.

numbskull 03-26-2007 05:21 PM

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You rang? Note also the lead in the paint.

ProfessorM 03-27-2007 02:31 PM

Hey George does the bottom one, unweighted tail, have weights put above the hook hangers, swivels, for belly weights or am I just seeing things above the hooks. P.

numbskull 03-27-2007 05:20 PM

I don't think so, Paul. The old atoms had some sort of home made swivel that was a brass tube with a through wire hole in it, and then crimped on one end to hold an elongated swivel loop.

Tagger 03-27-2007 05:50 PM

Just so happens ... Disregard split rings...
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...er-02/atom.jpg

Backbeach Jake 03-27-2007 05:53 PM

Cheese and crackers, Tagger! Between you and George, you got all the answers!

justplugit 03-27-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProfessorM (Post 478054)
Hey George does the bottom one, unweighted tail, have weights put above the hook hangers, swivels, for belly weights or am I just seeing things above the hooks. P.

Need a Radiologist consult here. :hihi:

Tagger 03-27-2007 08:13 PM

My question is about the A 40 nose... talkin the old wood ones ... some the nose is round ,,some are flat ... why ? wich came first ?

capesams 03-27-2007 09:32 PM

.02 say's flat came first..trailer baits......then round / shop built.

Canalman 03-28-2007 10:58 AM

I'm surprised to see no weight in the belly of the one without the tail weight... probably very rolly no? With that snow plow of a lip on there

capesams 03-28-2007 11:49 AM

no more roll then any other plug of that type..if you noticed,,Bob started to turn the edges of the lips up...swims very tite. plugs with the lead in the tail swim with very little tail movement compaired to the plug without lead that has a wide tail wiggle.

Canalman 03-28-2007 11:56 AM

I have noticed the "Scoop" lips... Still I like them with the belly weight.. But I'll try one without again to see the difference.

numbskull 03-28-2007 03:51 PM

I've seen an early Atom with a belly weight, but I think Bob only did it on light blanks to bring the weight up to spec, since the belly weighted one I've seen weighs the same as the unweighted ones I have.

Canalman 03-28-2007 04:21 PM

that could be..

fishatin 04-06-2007 08:27 AM

Capesams
 
Is that what you really look like?
Are you a holloween buff?

capesams 04-06-2007 06:18 PM

to much surf + boat fishin without sunblocker. this could be you at 70....u been warned.

capesams 04-06-2007 06:24 PM

the hair u see on my head gets there from combing it up from my back.


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