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Van 06-21-2007 07:46 AM

Pogie Net
 
Do any of you guys have em, use em'????

A couple of friends and I are ready to order one or two.
But we are looking for valuable info.

Sinking? Floating? Mesh size? Length, etc..

Thanks.

MakoMike 06-21-2007 09:23 AM

This is from one of the best pogie cast netters I know: "I toss a 10' cracker castnet with a 1-1/8" mesh for the adults.
the larger mesh will let it sink faster.
I toss a cracker 10'er allso for the nuts with a 3/8" mesh size"

If I were buying nets I would go with his reccomendations. This guy is a charter captain and has to catch pogies for his clients to catch bass.

Casper 06-21-2007 02:01 PM

Hi Van,

Talk to either Frank or Mike from the MSBA.

Mr. Sandman 06-21-2007 02:29 PM

Van,

What MM said. I through 3 different nets but for pogies the 1-1/8" cracker is the best net for the money IMO. The next step up would be the calausa (same size) but it is another $100 or so.

get the cracker, I own several other cheap nets and they just plain suck compared to this net. Once you throw a cracker or calausa and watch it open and see the sinkrate you will never buy another net. You will waist a lot less time #^&#^&#^&#^&ing with these nets then the light cheapo ones. Ask you self one question...do you want to catch bait or do you want to get frustrated seeing the bait get away.


PS to throw a 10' in MA you need a commercial bait license. I would get it instead of buying the 8' net. (which technically is just over the 200 sq ft limit as well but they probably will nut bust your but

Van 06-21-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman (Post 501929)
Van,

What MM said. I through 3 different nets but for pogies the 1-1/8" cracker is the best net for the money IMO. The next step up would be the calausa (same size) but it is another $100 or so.

get the cracker, I own several other cheap nets and they just plain suck compared to this net. Once you throw a cracker or calausa and watch it open and see the sinkrate you will never buy another net. You will waist a lot less time #^&#^&#^&#^&ing with these nets then the light cheapo ones. Ask you self one question...do you want to catch bait or do you want to get frustrated seeing the bait get away.


PS to throw a 10' in MA you need a commercial bait license. I would get it instead of buying the 8' net. (which technically is just over the 200 sq ft limit as well but they probably will nut bust your but


Actually around here they use flaoting or sinking gill nets, under a certain size no license is needed. I had not considered a throw net because they are not that thick (ususally)....

Mr. Sandman 06-21-2007 04:42 PM

I am not sure about rec gill netting. There may be "limited entry permits" for this...again I am not sure, it may depend on the species too... call the DMF before buying a net to see if you can get a permit and get the latest regs.

The reason I say call is they the eviron police are pretty aggressive out this way when they see someone put a net in the water.

Pete_G 06-21-2007 05:46 PM

I gave a 10' net a go a few times this spring.

Rarely were the schools of pogies tight enough to be net friendly. When they were it sure made for a full livewell, and in VERY short order.

Most days I felt more effective with 2 or 3 guys with snag hooks then one in the bow with a net.

The pogies are surprisingly skittish. Then again, no fish in RI other then surface feeding bluefin seems to have to deal with such run and gunning. You have to get fairly close, but often the pogies sound at that point.

The net does result in very nice healthy bait though. The snag hook takes it's toll on the bunker, depending where it was hit.

Raider Ronnie 06-21-2007 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=Van;501794]Do any of you guys have em, use em'????

A couple of friends and I are ready to order one or two.
But we are looking for valuable info.






"Valuable Info" Cost $$$
I hope you are planning on getting the required permits!!!
Also, Netting during daylight hrs is a long shot at best!

nautibuoys 06-21-2007 08:21 PM

Pogie net
 
200 sq feet (8' x 25' or less) no license required in MA; however, its small so a lot use the 100' x 8'.

mikecc 06-21-2007 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nautibuoys (Post 502043)
200 sq feet (8' x 25' or less) no license required in MA; however, its small so a lot use the 100' x 8'.

It also = a cast net of 7'
8' net is .96 over the 200 sq Ft size

Van 06-21-2007 10:11 PM

[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie;502007]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Van (Post 501794)
Do any of you guys have em, use em'????

A couple of friends and I are ready to order one or two.
But we are looking for valuable info.


"Valuable Info" Cost $$$
I hope you are planning on getting the required permits!!!
Also, Netting during daylight hrs is a long shot at best!

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200 sq feet (8' x 25' or less) no license required in MA; however, its small so a lot use the 100' x 8'.

What nautibuoys said. No permit required.

Plus.
I know someone who gets them any time of day !!!!
But agreed early AM is best, no problem for me as I'm only 5 minutes from my slip, and 5 minutes from a good area. :btu:

Raider Ronnie 06-22-2007 05:48 AM

[QUOTE=Van;502073]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 502007)

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200 sq feet (8' x 25' or less) no license required in MA; however, its small so a lot use the 100' x 8'.

What nautibuoys said. No permit required.

Plus.
I know someone who gets them any time of day !!!!
But agreed early AM is best, no problem for me as I'm only 5 minutes from my slip, and 5 minutes from a good area. :btu:





Anything less than 200 sq is pretty small and useless unless you get lucky and find pods of them.

And leave the netting to us pros!

Van 06-22-2007 06:17 AM

Totally unnecessary guys - no more of this, period...

Thanks,

John

Sluggoslinger 06-22-2007 07:52 AM

We were getting them yesterday in the middle of the day with a cast net. My friend who has one gets them all the time in the middle of the day and if you know were they are you will find them so i'm not sure what your talking about...

fishsmith 06-22-2007 08:01 AM

Don't mind Ronnie Van, if you were a Raiders fan in Patriot Nation you'd be bitter too.

The best thing I've heard is "gillnetting sucks on a good day" .

How do you become a pro anyway?

Roger 06-22-2007 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishsmith (Post 502169)
How do you become a pro anyway?

I think the designation is referred to as "master baiter" :D

fishsmith 06-22-2007 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger (Post 502210)
I think the designation is referred to as "master baiter" :D


Really, well I'm a pro then :rotf2:

parker23 06-22-2007 12:18 PM

Casting Net
 
I have been VERY unsuccessful using a casting net. For 2 years I used a cheap one and had success less than 20% of the time. Over this winter I did some research and purchased a Calusa casting net, 1.5#'s of lead/ft. 1" Diameter mesh. I still suck. I am able to throw it and it opens fairly well, however, the most I catch is weed.

I can snag several pogies in the same time it takes me to prep the net, throw, let it sink and retreive it. I would like to have bait that is not wounded from a trebble.

Now I have a $200.00+ net that frustrates me too no end.

fishaholic18 06-22-2007 12:28 PM

Does anyone know the cast net regs in RI?
What is the best all around size to get (radius and mesh size) for Adult and peanut Bunker?

Raider Ronnie 06-22-2007 08:05 PM

Totally unnecessary guys - no more of this, period...

Thanks,

John

BigFish 06-22-2007 09:14 PM

:topic: A wee bit!:hs:

TheSpecialist 06-22-2007 09:21 PM

Guys pm's would be better for this.

fishaholic18 06-22-2007 09:38 PM

Totally unnecessary guys - no more of this, period...

Thanks,

John

JohnR 06-22-2007 09:53 PM

This thread ain't happening. If there is bad blood, keep it off the board.

Thread closed.

Thanks,

John


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