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Rockport24 07-09-2007 11:42 AM

eels coming off the hook during retrieve?
 
this happened to me last night for the first time ever, I've casted them off before, but last night, I lost two eels during the retrieve!
One right after the other. how the hell does that happen? The eels were especially lively and when I tossed them out there I could feel them swimming like mad, so maybe they just unhooked themselves somehow :huh:
oh I hook them through the mouth out the throat and I have never had this problem.

luds 07-09-2007 01:42 PM

I've been hooking them out the side of the head. The skin seems to be tougher there and it holds better. I think Canalman convinced me to do that.

You can always smack them on a rock to take some life out of them. They'll be wounded and less active as a result but less likely to come off the hook.

JFigliuolo 07-09-2007 01:46 PM

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& don't like 'em but I swear by gami circle hooks. I can lay into 'em with an su1088 and they stay buckled...(except when they are too small in my opinion anyway)

jim sylvester 07-09-2007 01:56 PM

go to a hook with a larger barb

tattoobob 07-09-2007 02:42 PM

Matt, go thru the bottom lip/jaw and out thru one of the eyes, just don't hit there brain

Saltheart 07-09-2007 02:44 PM

maybe something was stealing them on you last night?

Canalman 07-09-2007 03:27 PM

I use the circles too... as Luds was saying, I go up through the bottom jaw and out behind the eye... try and get some skull :devil: this make for a much stronger hook-hold.

Rockport--- I bet the eels you were using were small is that correct? Those little pin-snakes as I call them, are acrobatic little bastids, it seems to me that because they are lighter and wirier (that a word and a half :rollem: ) they can still get their tail up around the hook, even on the retrieve, and pop the hook right out. You may want to smack their tails on a rock a few times to take some of the fight out of them. I've had that happen many times... and always with small eels (9" or shorter).

Hope that helps,
-Dave

Rockport24 07-09-2007 03:28 PM

thanks for the advice guys, and Saltheart, that's what I would like to think, but I threw the bag at them after I lost the eels without any hits...

5/0 07-09-2007 03:29 PM

Matt when drifting eels in the Canal I have them come off the hook not knowing it and on the retrive I have a starfish on the hook instead?!?!Go figure:gf:


5/0

Rockport24 07-09-2007 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canalman (Post 506423)
I use the circles too... as Luds was saying, I go up through the bottom jaw and out behind the eye... try and get some skull :devil: this make for a much stronger hook-hold.

Rockport--- I bet the eels you were using were small is that correct? Those little pin-snakes as I call them, are acrobatic little bastids, it seems to me that because they are lighter and wirier (that a word and a half :rollem: ) they can still get their tail up around the hook, even on the retrieve, and pop the hook right out. You may want to smack their tails on a rock a few times to take some of the fight out of them. I've had that happen many times... and always with small eels (12" or shorter).

Hope that helps,
-Dave



They were on the small side, like 14 inches or so, but they were acrobatic little suckers... I usually don't feel them moving around too much on the end of the line when they are in the water, but these things were going nuts....

Canalman 07-09-2007 03:46 PM

14" Is perfect size for beach fishing... maybe the factor is not length so much as it is girth? :huh: The skinny ones always seem more lively/acrobatic... who knows... did you catch any fish :) ?

Shake N' Bake 07-09-2007 04:01 PM

fishing striper with eels
 
Does anyone have further advice for fishing with eels?
Perhaps a picture of a proper hooking.
I have never tried fishing stripers with eels.
Is it best to fish eels at night vs. day?
I found a bait dealer that sells eels and now I want to give it a try.

Thanks in advance.

Jim

Rockport24 07-09-2007 04:02 PM

yeah I caught a fish on a plug and the fish had my eel sticking out of it's mouth! NOOOO I didn't catch anything because those two eels were my first two friggin' casts and that was all I brought because it as gonna be a short outing, then nothing after that with plugs and sluggos.

RedHerring 07-09-2007 07:48 PM

You should always use a circle hook with eels, unless you plan to kill all the bass you catch. If you are a true sportsfisherman, use circle hooks.

Rockport24 07-10-2007 08:27 AM

oh please....

FredS 07-10-2007 09:48 AM

Mustad 94150 in 8/0--bigger barb will keep em on

patpatriot 07-10-2007 10:07 AM

same thing happend to me the the other night, i figured it was rocks or possibly dogfish

RIJIMMY 07-10-2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedHerring (Post 506478)
You should always use a circle hook with eels, unless you plan to kill all the bass you catch. If you are a true sportsfisherman, use circle hooks.

I've never used circles and have never gut hooked a bass using eels. Tap, Tap, lower rod.....slam. Gets 'em in the lip almost every time.

5/0 07-10-2007 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedHerring (Post 506478)
You should always use a circle hook with eels If you are a true sportsfisherman, use circle hooks.

:lurk:


5/0

RIROCKHOUND 07-10-2007 03:12 PM

Oh hell, if you are really a sportsman you swim around with the eel in your hand and then just grab the bass when it gets close.
thats what I do.
You guys are all heathens! :D:D
6/0 Mustad J hook. I dont gut hook many.

snake slinger 07-10-2007 03:12 PM

mustad 94150.if you now how to use them you dont gut fish.

Rockport24 07-10-2007 03:26 PM

If you don't want to kill bass, don't fish for them :nailem:

The Dad Fisherman 07-10-2007 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedHerring (Post 506478)
If you are a true sportsfisherman, use circle hooks.

If Fishing is a Sport.....Then you're Looking at an Athlete :hee:

davgor 07-10-2007 04:24 PM

slippery little basst*rds will steal your truck and your woman if you don't watch em! Never trust an eel! Never..

Goose 07-10-2007 05:53 PM

Switch to a hook with a bigger barb,, then feed the eel the hook so it comes out in the white under its chin(deep throat). do those two things and you'll rarly loose eels again.

stiff tip 07-10-2007 06:10 PM

u need help ?????
 
......:poke: rethink what you just said........:eyes:

Canalman 07-11-2007 10:23 AM

RIJIMMY -- You've NEVER gut hooked a bass on an eel!?!?! Holy $#!+ :hihi:

I started using circles 2 years ago and I will never switch... 7/0 Gami Octopus Circle... best eel hook there is.. if you ask me... and you didn't... so... consider it free advice :huh: :laughs:

Gunpowder 07-11-2007 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canalman (Post 506805)
RIJIMMY -- You've NEVER gut hooked a bass on an eel!?!?! Holy $#!+ :hihi:

I started using circles 2 years ago and I will never switch... 7/0 Gami Octopus Circle... best eel hook there is.. if you ask me... and you didn't... so... consider it free advice :huh: :laughs:

i love those hooks too. thats all i ever use when im out eel fishin


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