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cow tamer 11-21-2007 09:54 AM

Top Single Condition for Fish
 
For me, it's the presence of baitfish, but I may be oversimplifying, because something had to have got the whole thing started by attracting the baitfish in the first place.

So if you had to pick one, under what single condition do you most oftentimes find fish?

Clogston29 11-21-2007 09:57 AM

moving water

ProfessorM 11-21-2007 10:01 AM

I too like moving water, esp. any area that a large body of water flows out thru a smaller cut into the main body of water.

FishermanTim 11-21-2007 10:06 AM

FISH:laugha::laugha::laugha:

Solitude::rollem: I always seem to catch good fish when I'm alone.
(Go figure - it doesn't help with my "You should have been there" speech the next day.)

Seriously, I would say bait. Not massive schools, as it may interfere with you ability to get fish to hit your offering, but just the presence of bait.

2na 11-21-2007 10:16 AM

25+ NW wind in my face

The Iceman 6 11-21-2007 10:16 AM

Baitfish is the easy answer, birds certainly do the trick, but I too am a fan of the moving water, stripers love current....

numbskull 11-21-2007 10:18 AM

Free time

Rockfish9 11-21-2007 10:19 AM

because I still can....

numbskull 11-21-2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Iceman 6 (Post 541589)
..... stripers love current....

Heresy perhaps, but my experience is that while stripers are easier to catch in current, the biggest fish come out to prowl and are more accessible during slack water (or barely moving water).....not that they usually have any interest in what I'm throwing.

Flaptail 11-21-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 541591)
Free time

Exact-a-mundo!:uhuh:

Rockfish9 11-21-2007 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 541594)
Heresy perhaps, but my experience is that while stripers are easier to catch in current, the biggest fish come out to prowl and are more accessible during slack water (or barely moving water).....not that they usually have any interest in what I'm throwing.


:uhuh:...most definatly, big bruisers are lazy, most of my bigger fish ( over 40lbs) have come from quiet slow moving water...

ridler72 11-21-2007 10:33 AM

3rd night of the new moon in August. :lasso:

RIJIMMY 11-21-2007 10:34 AM

bait

DZ 11-21-2007 10:45 AM

A bass' willingness to bite what I'm throwing.

DZ

Clammer 11-21-2007 10:53 AM

when its Flat A $$ Calm ::: I,ll take that 24/7

cheferson 11-21-2007 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clammer (Post 541604)
when its Flat A $$ Calm ::: I,ll take that 24/7

:cheers:

Back Beach 11-21-2007 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clammer (Post 541604)
when its Flat A $$ Calm ::: I,ll take that 24/7

.....and dark with the wind @ my back.

Presence of bait is the lowest factor for me. People make way too big a deal out of it. In fact, its completely meaningless to me whether bait is there or not. This isn't to say presence of bait doesn't often coincide with presence of fish, bbbbbbbbuttttttttttt......

.......most of the things they like to eat(like crustacenans) are difficult to detect.Bigger fish are primarily solo and sometimes in small pods. They are bottom grubbers for the most part.

RIROCKHOUND 11-21-2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Back Beach (Post 541610)
.....and dark with the wind @ my back.

Presence of bait is the lowest factor for me. People make way too big a deal out of it. In fact, its completely meaningless to me whether bait is there or not. This isn't to say presence of bait doesn't often coincide with presence of fish, bbbbbbbbuttttttttttt......

.......most of the things they like to eat(like crustacenans) are difficult to detect.Bigger fish are primarily solo and sometimes in small pods. They are bottom grubbers for the most part.

Yup!
My biggest this year came in the slop, but most consistent is under these conditions. I think it's all about presentation. This is easier done when it is FAC then 20kts NE in your face.

Diggin Jiggin 11-21-2007 11:51 AM

Moving water.
An hour or so into the east has been very good to me...

Rick Ackley 11-21-2007 12:26 PM

Shore.... a flooding estuary on a moonless night, late Summer.
Water.... any forming rip inside sheltered waters.

Clogston29 11-21-2007 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 541594)
Heresy perhaps, but my experience is that while stripers are easier to catch in current, the biggest fish come out to prowl and are more accessible during slack water (or barely moving water).....not that they usually have any interest in what I'm throwing.

yup, when i say moving water, i'm talking more about a sweep or minor rip, not raging current

cow tamer 11-21-2007 12:34 PM

Okay, so far we've covered the gamut . . .
bait is important
bait isn't important
FAC
moving water

I can see why now it all comes down to putting your time in and having the time to do same.

Gunpowder 11-21-2007 02:27 PM

absolutley right tamer.... with all the conflicting information out there, it comes down to u fishing if u want to be out there. cause ya kno there are gonna be countless nights when u get skunked.

fishbones 11-21-2007 03:25 PM

At night near an outflow with big rocks present. Some of you probably know an area like this. :)

Chefskeez6 11-21-2007 03:42 PM

I like current and bait but the single most important thing for me is the wind.

Wind at your my back equals very long and unproductive casting for me. I would much rather have the wind in my face. I can't cast as far but it is always more productive for me (even in the canal). I know a lot of people don't think it makes a difference in places like the canal but i'll fish whatever side of the canal puts the wind in my face if any is present.

MarshCappa 11-21-2007 04:11 PM

In my limited experiences it depends on the time of the season. Spring and fall when I'm on my skiff I'm clueing in on birds. Summer time I'm hitting spots that hold fish with no clear visible signs that they are actually there but rather going on previious experience and knowledge of what they like. Personally I love getting to a spot and not seeing anything until WHAM they hit your plug or sluggo and the game is on.

EarnedStripes44 11-21-2007 04:15 PM

live (moving) water

tattoobob 11-21-2007 04:40 PM

Depending on where I am fishing, there is not one single factor
structure, moving water, and bait. I try not to over think but never it happens. just get out and fish

riverrat2 11-21-2007 05:06 PM

100% agree with you mike. Big fish setup in locations where they can scrounge weather it be lobsters, juvenile tog, scup, crabs etc... Deep water with nearshore reefs, boulders etc are my favorite. Wind to me means nothing other than the fact that if it is blowing more than 10knts in my face im going to sleep or finding a spot with the wind at my back.

Pete_G 11-21-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by riverrat2 (Post 541673)
100% agree with you mike. Big fish setup in locations where they can scrounge weather it be lobsters, juvenile tog, scup, crabs etc... Deep water with nearshore reefs, boulders etc are my favorite. Wind to me means nothing other than the fact that if it is blowing more than 10knts in my face im going to sleep or finding a spot with the wind at my back.


I'm big on the reliable food concept too.

Big fish seem to hang where food is reliable, in any form. If a school of something tasty like bunker comes by, so be it, they take advantage. But otherwise all they have to do is wait for nightfall and they go on the prowl and enjoy what's around.


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