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cow tamer 05-18-2008 04:38 PM

So You Get to Your Spot and There's Surfers
 
Do you bother to fish or go to another spot?

tattoobob 05-18-2008 05:03 PM

I would try to fish but if it was unsafe for the surfer I would go and try a back up spot. Surfers don't surf at night

RIJIMMY 05-18-2008 05:35 PM

That would mean you're fishing in the daylight and should just go home anyway

Nebe 05-18-2008 05:36 PM

you leave them alone. They were there first.

Hopefully, they will do the same when they find you there..

BigFish 05-18-2008 05:47 PM

Eben nailed it....they got there first! If I was there first and they showed up and started surfing (and this has happened to me before).....you tell them to move the hell on......no listen......I take out the 3 oz. Orange pencil repleat with 3/0 trebles and I make it known that I intend to continue fishing......what I catch is entirely up to the surfers!:jester:

Rob Rockcrawler 05-18-2008 05:56 PM

It happened to me a couple weeks ago. I drove there, bout 20 miles from where i was and it was chock full of surfers. I just watched em for a little bit and moved on. No prob last night, got there at 8 oclock, just as they were packing it up for the day.

Adam_777 05-18-2008 06:02 PM

I move on while doing my best great white call.

hulkyj61 05-18-2008 06:26 PM

I fish and surf. I see both sides of this. Surfing is impossible at night unless youre near a pier where its lighted. For those of you who are not night owls, theres plenty of great spots where waves break that are unsurfable. In any situation where there are fishers and surfers just remember respect gets respect, and it works both ways.

PS Bigfish- Please cast one my way when I'm surfing, ill snag it. those things are expensive:jump:

BigFish 05-18-2008 06:38 PM

I will keep my hooks sharp Hulky!:jester:

Raider Ronnie 05-18-2008 06:39 PM

If you hook into a surfer, I wounder if they will give a good fight !:laugha:

BigFish 05-18-2008 07:23 PM

I can guarantee they will!:jester:

emgred 05-18-2008 07:23 PM

Several people have it right; I never run into to surfers at 1AM:laugha::p

Gunpowder 05-18-2008 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emgred (Post 590509)
Several people have it right; I never run into to surfers at 1AM:laugha::p

no joke...i have ran seen some surfers out there in those hours on the outer cape. some of them are just as crazy as we are :eek:

big jay 05-18-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 590487)
If you hook into a surfer, I wounder if they will give a good fight !:laugha:

Sure - once they paddle in and punch the guy that threw a plug at them :)

Joe 05-18-2008 07:40 PM

Surfers show up and start surfing then give you the big f-u - I've never seen them leave because someone was fishing there first. The little brown signs designate the areas as fishing spots, not surfing spots.

cow tamer 05-18-2008 07:43 PM

Well, I guess what I was getting at, when I started this thread is I'd like to know if decent size fish still hang around with surfers in the water. No need to fish, if the fish are not there. Has anyone done well with surfers in the water?

hyefisherman2 05-18-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunpowder (Post 590513)
no joke...i have ran seen some surfers out there in those hours on the outer cape. some of them are just as crazy as we are :eek:

.....you sure about that mike? :devil:

Joe 05-18-2008 07:57 PM

Surfers don't usually spook fish - neither does a guy with a spear gun.

likwid 05-18-2008 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe (Post 590522)
Surfers show up and start surfing then give you the big f-u - I've never seen them leave because someone was fishing there first.

Well given the attitude of some of the RI surf fishermen, this doesn't seem very surprising. Birds of a feather I guess. ;)

Squid kids Dad 05-18-2008 09:29 PM

They were there 1st

Joe 05-18-2008 09:53 PM

I think the difference is when there are surfers in a spot first, fishermen typically go someplace else. When people are fishing, the surfers could care less - that's been my experience.

chunk 05-19-2008 01:26 AM

I have a good relationship with the surfers where I fish, sometimes they know if there are fish in the area, which is priceless. I just fish around them.

JoeBass 05-19-2008 09:29 AM

Last year in Maine I almost came to blows with a surfer. I moved twice down the beach and each time he eventually surfed right where I was fishing. I yelled out to him to have some courtesy. This caused him to charge up onto the beach. Words were exchanged. I did cast a plug pretty close to him a couple of times after that.

k-e-v-i-n 05-19-2008 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe (Post 590522)
Surfers show up and start surfing then give you the big f-u - I've never seen them leave because someone was fishing there first. The little brown signs designate the areas as fishing spots, not surfing spots.

I was just talking about this the other day!! It really pisses me off. I would have the common curtousy if I showed up to a spot and surfers where there ... to MOVE... BUT if Im fishing a spot and THEY show up after me.. I would think they would move... NOT THE CASE... F'ers. no love from them... no love from me... they better be carrying a knife to cut my braid.

NEWENGLAND 05-19-2008 10:48 AM

You dont OWN THE OCEAN
 
You dont OWN THE OCEAN. That is unless your a commmercial Lobsterman. (Ask them Tey will tell you that they own it)



Whoever is on the spot first has the right of way.

The exception to this is if your fishing a navigatable waterway and a vessel. (Canoe, Tugboat with Barge) or anything else needs to pass by.

Its a vastly differnt story if your say SCUBA Diving and are anchored and are flying a code alpha and a divers flag and some idiot desides to do donuts arour your flag or drag lobster pots around in circles until they hit you.

Then I say lay out the Steel Cable on the fishing line and let them snarl up their props in it.

Or with Surfers: If they were there first, then they have priority, If you were fishing firt then they should move on to a differnt spot.

Cast net for Bait?


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Flaptail 05-19-2008 11:28 AM

I said it many times in my past career as a writer of piscatorial pursuits that it is the wise surfcaster who befriends the surfers and talk with them regularly. Surfers see fish all the time, espeically on the outer cape where they wait beyond the bar for the wave to form as it goes over it.

What they see that you can't and what they will tell you should incorporate into your midnight hunt.

Show the surfer dudes some love and respect and you will benefit greatly from avoiding casting into the dark into lifeless water.

RoyL 05-19-2008 11:28 AM

If there there first I leave, unless im fishing for bluefish then I make some cast...sortha like West Dennise beach....they are always there.

jeffsod 05-19-2008 12:49 PM

I agree; whoever is there first.

I also think the situation can vary too depending on whether you are talking about a beach break like cape beach or reefs in RI. A beach break is easy for a surfer to move down the beach but unless they have a particular bar that is working. But reef breaks have a defined area that you can expect them to be on during a good swell.

vanstaal 05-19-2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 590472)
Eben nailed it....they got there first! If I was there first and they showed up and started surfing (and this has happened to me before).....you tell them to move the hell on......no listen......I take out the 3 oz. Orange pencil repleat with 3/0 trebles and I make it known that I intend to continue fishing......what I catch is entirely up to the surfers!:jester:

this happen to me and they called the police on me the cop told me they have more rights that you go figure.

likwid 05-19-2008 02:22 PM

Throwing a plug at em = assault.


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