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Sea Dangles 09-27-2008 07:28 PM

TOSSED
 
Today in the mail Sean Bradshaw received a letter from On The Water informing him he was being removed from the Striper Cup.In a show of solidarity Team Striper will most likely withdraw from the Cup.

ProfessorM 09-27-2008 07:33 PM

Why. Did he fail a lie detector test or something?

Sea Dangles 09-27-2008 07:35 PM

No, apparently the newspaper article was conclusive enough for OTW to DQ the young lad.

striperman36 09-27-2008 07:36 PM

what newspaper article?

striperman36 09-27-2008 07:39 PM

http://striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/...ad.php?t=52022

Wow, well well

nightfighter 09-27-2008 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 624040)
Today in the mail Sean Bradshaw received a letter from On The Water informing him he was being removed from the Striper Cup.In a show of solidarity Team Striper will most likely withdraw from the Cup.

A show of solidarity for what????? That is ridiculous.

BigFish 09-27-2008 07:53 PM

So....Team S-B wins?:confused:

ProfessorM 09-27-2008 07:55 PM

kind of looks like it if they withdraw the team. Why they would do that I have no idea. Probably be an * after it though. IMO not worth it if you don't do it yourself,others may think differently.

BigFish 09-27-2008 07:58 PM

Bradshaw has a 51 from a boat.....subtract that from the score and add the next largest fish they have and probably not enough to win! Striper Cup Fest should be quite interesting!:cheers2:

BigFish 09-27-2008 08:02 PM

Oh....and a big KUDOS to OTW for dropping the bum!

Dad 818 09-27-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 624055)
Oh....and a big KUDOS to OTW for dropping the bum!

Without a doubt.

Mike P 09-27-2008 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 624054)
Bradshaw has a 51 from a boat.....subtract that from the score and add the next largest fish they have and probably not enough to win! Striper Cup Fest should be quite interesting!:cheers2:

Larry--they're ahead of us by something like 25-30 points. I guarantee you that their 11th place fish is mid to high 40s, minimum.

BigFish 09-27-2008 08:36 PM

Why would they withdraw??? Just because of 1 bad apple in the barrel? :huh:

FishTwoO 09-27-2008 08:40 PM

Oh thou doest protest to much!

5/0 09-27-2008 08:56 PM

Good things come to those who deserve it,& some get what they deserve.


5/0

Squid kids Dad 09-27-2008 09:01 PM

Hummmmm..Interesting

ivanputski 09-27-2008 09:11 PM

striper cup should be INDIVIDUAL...or two-man at the most... not teams...

Mike P 09-27-2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 624078)
Why would they withdraw??? Just because of 1 bad apple in the barrel? :huh:

If I had to try to be a mind reader, maybe because they feel that OTW pre-judged guilt without a court adjudication. If my memory is correct, they waited unti Major's case was heard in Edgartown District Court until they tossed him.

Not that my opinion matters much, but I think withdrawing on their part is ill advised. While some might understand the rationale if it is as I guessed, many others would view it as showing solidarity with a poacher. If they want to have Bradshaw up on the stage accepting the Cup with the rest of their team, that's their prerogative.

nklinesider 09-27-2008 09:27 PM

well i hope the court system feels the same way OTW does. im looking forward to Striper Fest more now to see the outcome of everything.

Flaptail 09-28-2008 03:39 AM

Obviously, from the report of the RI/CT environmental people, and I suspect that they do not do these things half assed, and given the amount of Bass the paocher had, his ass should get tossed and if "Team Striper" goes out in solidarity with this poacher, then others from that team probably had knowledge of what he was doing as well.

The whole team should withdraw, if they don't there will always be a shadow of doubt as to the legality of the taking the Cup on thier part, accomplices or not to the acts of this loser.

It would actually be too bad if they don't as it will dampen the enthusiasm of the legitimate contestants for further participation.

OTW did the right thing in this case especially given the closeness of the end of the tourney, they had to act.

Raven 09-28-2008 06:45 AM

this is like spy gate
 
with the New England Patriots

and then you say... "well, who knew" :gorez:

BigFish 09-28-2008 06:56 AM

Yeah like I need to wait to see if he is guilty? Explain to me why he had all that bass at his home?? Guilty! Next case!

numbskull 09-28-2008 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 624092)
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Not that my opinion matters much, but I think withdrawing on their part is ill advised. While some might understand the rationale if it is as I guessed, many others would view it as showing solidarity with a poacher. If they want to have Bradshaw up on the stage accepting the Cup with the rest of their team, that's their prerogative.

Very well said.

Sea Dangles 09-28-2008 07:23 AM

It's hard to know what to do when two old school anglers like Flap and Numb present contrarian opinions. Please expound on your views so the powers that be can become enlightened. This is good stuff.

Nebe 09-28-2008 07:25 AM

here is my thoughts- I am totally anti-competitive fishing these days, but If you have a guy who is a hard core poacher and he is fishing for team striper, who is to say that the hard core poacher isnt letting other members of his team weigh in any of the larger fish under their names?

For example, lets say he had 3 dead 45 lbers on ice.. who is to say that he didnt allow fellow members to borrow one to weigh......

I am not saying that they did this, but come on... somehow I doubt a poacher of this magnitude would not think of cheating...

If it were me and I ran the tournament, I would not boot the whole %$%$%$%$ing team, but I would have them all do a polygraph test to disprove any cheating.

striperman36 09-28-2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 624126)
here is my thoughts- I am totally anti-competitive fishing these days, but If you have a guy who is a hard core poacher and he is fishing for team striper, who is to say that the hard core poacher isnt letting other members of his team weigh in any of the larger fish under their names?

For example, lets say he had 3 dead 45 lbers on ice.. who is to say that he didnt allow fellow members to borrow one to weigh......

I am not saying that they did this, but come on... somehow I doubt a poacher of this magnitude would not think of cheating...

If it were me and I ran the tournament, I would not boot the whole %$%$%$%$ing team, but I would have them all do a polygraph test to disprove any cheating.


I am thinking this too. Who's to say he didn't catch all the fish and had 'conveniently' shared his fish with the team. To me the entire team's weigh in is suspect.

Sea Dangles 09-28-2008 07:56 AM

I ,again say test anyone who has a key to the truck. The winning team gets nothing. The anglers of the year get nothing. There were widespread rumors of last years winners passing fish. Another where a shore caught angler scored a cow on a boat.Too much hippy spinach will get the best of your imagination sometimes. One thing I am certain of is that none of the anglers on Team Striper needs anyone else's fish to weigh in.These aren't the type who fish to get their pictures in magazines or websites.Guys on Team Striper were fishing in the original Schaefer with some members being multiple winners.I would guess they have caught more fifties than other teams have caught thirties. Most are comm's or have charter businesses.The only comparison I can think of would be pros vs. amateurs. I can say this with certainty as I have fished with most of the high hookers from each team. This is no disrespect to anyone on the board so please don't take it personally.My suggestion is to win or lose with class. Leave the sour grapes for losers.

BigFish 09-28-2008 07:57 AM

You can't throw a blanket over the entire team for the actions of one! I believe if the others knew what he was doing they would have expelled him themselves? Guilty by association? I do not believe you can lump the other members in with that jack ass! I feel bad for the rest of the team but I think Mike P. is right on....they should not side with him by resigning from the competition......it would show that they might possibly have had knowledge of what was going on......however they may be of the belief that their teams accomplishment is somehow tainted and would not want to cast a pall over the integrity of the Striper Cup!

FishTwoO 09-28-2008 07:57 AM

Polygraphing the whole team sounds like a good idea,but probably would be a major headache and expense.Maybe they'll do a Marion Jones.

BigFish 09-28-2008 08:00 AM

I have said in the past that these competitions should exclude commercially licensed fishermen as they have a decided advantage over the recreational fishermen. It should be held to a strict recreational fishermen only tournament.....I believe it would weed out a good amount of the BS!


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