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Sea Dangles 12-10-2008 08:44 AM

Trial today
 
This morning Sean Bradshaw will stand trial for various charges related to the illegal possession and sale of striped bass. As a result of these charges OTW DQ'd Bradshaw from their tournament before he had his day in court. I will update interested parties when I am informed of the results.

Slipknot 12-11-2008 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 645271)
As a result of these charges OTW DQ'd Bradshaw from their tournament before he had his day in court.

so in your opinion , is that a bad decision or a fair one? Sounds similar to the NFL suspending Pacman Jones for all the bonehead moves he made off the field.
They busted the guy for poaching, they clearly must have had a good case or they would not have charged the guy. Poachers suck
So did he get a slap on the wrist or what?

slow eddie 12-11-2008 03:28 PM

had a friend of mine do 6 mo. in conn. jail back in the early 70's. thames river. first 2 times big fines. third time was the charm. no probation. just the 6 mo. term. they only caught him probably 1 out of 100. he did make some huge money.

Pete F. 12-11-2008 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by slow eddie (Post 645711)
had a friend of mine do 6 mo. in conn. jail back in the early 70's. thames river. first 2 times big fines. third time was the charm. no probation. just the 6 mo. term. they only caught him probably 1 out of 100. he did make some huge money.

How much huge money is 6 months worth?

gone fishin 12-11-2008 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 645713)
How much huge money is 6 months worth?

OR felony conviction?

vanstaal 12-12-2008 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by slow eddie (Post 645711)
had a friend of mine do 6 mo. in conn. jail back in the early 70's. thames river. first 2 times big fines. third time was the charm. no probation. just the 6 mo. term. they only caught him probably 1 out of 100. he did make some huge money.

:hs:

bart 12-12-2008 08:20 AM

all these f'n scumbags should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. like others have said, how many times has he done this in the past before he got caught? i'm sure the evidence will be pretty overwhelming...

RIROCKHOUND 12-12-2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 645885)
all these f'n scumbags should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. like others have said, how many times has he done this in the past before he got caught? i'm sure the evidence will be pretty overwhelming...

I agree.
he got caught way above the legal limit of striped bass, after commercial season.
:cens:

FishermanTim 12-12-2008 12:00 PM

The sick part is that after getting away with it as many times as he did, he probably felt "justified" in doing so, since there weren't many times overall where he was caught.
It's a little like the acoholic that will claim they haven't got a problem, and can quit whenever he/she wants, only they quit when the problem gets them into trouble.

I agree...nail them to the full extent of the law.
Although incarceration may not be the way to go, heavy fines that follow them along with the conviction might help.

Sea Dangles 12-12-2008 02:57 PM

Unless I am mistaken, you are allowed to be in possession of as many fish as you want. However, there is a limit to how many you can cach in one day. My undersanding is those fish were meant for the freezer at some point. Nothing beats a nice filet in the middle of winter.

RIROCKHOUND 12-12-2008 03:07 PM

Chris,
1. Last time I checked it is a possesion limit
2. How many of the 40+ bass siezed were your friends.

Not trying to jump on him,, BUT he wasn't caught with one fish over the limit.
I have a freezer full of fillets, and I never exceeded my limit I could keep.

Blitzseeker 12-12-2008 03:10 PM

:lurk:

Mike P 12-12-2008 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 645885)
all these f'n scumbags should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. like others have said, how many times has he done this in the past before he got caught? i'm sure the evidence will be pretty overwhelming...

How many rapists, robbers, drug dealers, etc do you want to give a pass to in order to free up some jail space for guys who violate fisheries laws?

You know, the jails only have so much space, and even if states in our area had the money to build more jails---which they don't--where do you want them built? No one wants one in their own back yard.

Let's keep what this guy is accused of doing in some kind of reasonable perspective.

Raven 12-12-2008 03:26 PM

Good Point Mike P

maybe the equivalent of community service should be his punishment... not joking

and he should have to clean up all the beaches

Nebe 12-12-2008 03:30 PM

is this the guy who was caught transporting a chit ton of bass from CT on his way to Mass when the Mass Com season was open???

bart 12-12-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 646067)
How many rapists, robbers, drug dealers, etc do you want to give a pass to in order to free up some jail space for guys who violate fisheries laws?

You know, the jails only have so much space, and even if states in our area had the money to build more jails---which they don't--where do you want them built? No one wants one in their own back yard.

Let's keep what this guy is accused of doing in some kind of reasonable perspective.

give me a %$%$%$%$ing break. do you always have to jump on my ass? get a life for christ's sake. no one cares about your holier than thou, " i'm a lawyer" atttitude. catch a big fish then talk a little more...

NIB 12-12-2008 03:59 PM

Oh yea it's winter..:conf:
:rumble:

RIROCKHOUND 12-12-2008 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 646067)
How many rapists, robbers, drug dealers, etc do you want to give a pass to in order to free up some jail space for guys who violate fisheries laws?

You know, the jails only have so much space, and even if states in our area had the money to build more jails---which they don't--where do you want them built? No one wants one in their own back yard.

Let's keep what this guy is accused of doing in some kind of reasonable perspective.

I don't expect the guy to go to jail, but IMHO if some one is caught with 40 bass, then his truck, boat etc should be confiscated immediately until it can be heard before some legal authority.

Serious fines at the minimum, enough that it is prohibitive from others or the accused doing the same again.

Rob Rockcrawler 12-12-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB (Post 646093)
Oh yea it's winter..:conf:
:rumble:

Tis the season.

JohnR 12-12-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 646086)
give me a %$%$%$%$ing break. do you always have to jump on my ass? get a life for christ's sake. no one cares about your holier than thou, " i'm a lawyer" atttitude. catch a big fish then talk a little more...

Uhmm, I don't know if this has gone down this road before but Mike's response was reasonable.

If he is found guilty of this I think he should be fined heavily. I also think clear and distinct ramifications must be laid out in advance so that there is no question what will happen when one breaks those laws. Sadly, you can whimper a bit and the judge that is more worried about the "rapists, robbers, drug dealers, etc" and slaps the the offender with a $100 fine :wall: .

Rocco34520 12-12-2008 06:35 PM

To be jolly lalalalal:cheers2:

Couldnt resist.

TheSurfcaster 12-12-2008 06:45 PM

LET'S TRY AND BE CIVIL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bart (Post 646086)
give me a %$%$%$%$ing break. do you always have to jump on my ass? get a life for christ's sake. no one cares about your holier than thou, " i'm a lawyer" atttitude. catch a big fish then talk a little more...

SLOW DOWN YOUNG FELLER, LETS'S KEEP IT CLEAN AND FRIENDLY. MIKE WAS VOICING HIS OPINION AND YOU VOICED YOURS

eastendlu 12-12-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB (Post 646093)
Oh yea it's winter..:conf:
:rumble:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvufFwdqMzg

gottog? 12-13-2008 03:03 PM

i dnot think jail time is right , they should fine him the first time , second time up the fines to like 200 a fish , third time 500 a fish ....just keep upping the price ...eventually hell stop......some of u people are a little wacky........kill him ,hang him cause the 40 fish he stole is going to wipe out the whole species , then i wont beable to weigh in a fish at the local b&t .....

Uncle Matt 12-13-2008 03:17 PM

Take a deep breath everyone.....

So, getting back to the reason for this thread, did anyone hear what happend to Sean Bradshaw in court?

Swimmer 12-13-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl F (Post 646145)
i get ill every morning reading the court report...case dismissed, continued without a finding, one year sentence, remanded to probabtion for six months...charges filed...these are hard core drug charges, robberies, recieving stolen merch. on and on... friggin lets make a deal crap.... cops prolly quit trying, 'cause of the court antics...and the court antics blame overcrowded prisons...we as a society are in a downward spiral simialar to watching the toilet flush...and we all know where that leads..... see ya in the sewers!
but..given all that crap... ya think a fish poacher is gonna get a stiff sentence???
i doubt it.

About thirty years ago a lobster poacher/short taker was brought beforte a good friend of mine, a fair judge and a friend to all. The EPO's who presented the case told the judge that they and the defendent had an agreed upon disposition. The judge asked what that was? The EPO said the fine would be $25.00 your honor. The judge shrugged and said o.k. does the defendent have $25.00 to pay that today. The epo's spoke up and said that is $25.00 a piece judge. O.K. then what does that add up to. It was something like $4000.00 plus. And the poacher was happy he got to keep his license. Lobsterman paid the fine and walked out of court. You'd never see that in 2008. Not that this mentality applies in the R.I. SB case, but times have changed. Nothing is

Saltheart 12-20-2008 11:33 AM

So what happened?

Swimmer 12-20-2008 11:47 AM

I have been waiting also. Must not be good.:pats:

Mike P 12-20-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 646134)
Uhmm, I don't know if this has gone down this road before but Mike's response was reasonable.

.

Yeah, he's been down a few roads with me before. Here and at SOL.

fishaholic18 01-16-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 648101)
give me a %$%$%$%$ing break. do you always have to jump on my ass? get a life for christ's sake. no one cares about your holier than thou, " i'm a lawyer" atttitude. catch a big fish then talk a little more...

Easy killer......Others have opinions too...deal with it...WTF


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