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Rob Rockcrawler 03-20-2009 04:34 PM

Yet another wader question.
 
Im in the market for my 4th pair in 6 years. Going with beans or Simms this time. I like the looks of a couple of the new beaners. I have never had boot foot waders. How is the support of breathable bootfoot waders when strapped up with korkers? I like the stockin foot for the added support of the wading boots, but the new beans look like they have decent support. I fish rocks about 75% of the time.

Rockport24 03-20-2009 04:39 PM

stick with boots that lace and give the support. I tried the bootfoots with korkers and then switched to the lace-up boots and haven't looked back. I started with cabelas ones that have a lace-up boot attached the waders like a boot foot, so that's the best of both worlds. They didn't quite fit right though, so I had to go with stocking foots, they are worth checking out though if you are normal size

LL bean has similar ones: link

Sweetwater 03-20-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockport24 (Post 675555)
stick with boots that lace and give the support. I tried the bootfoots with korkers and then switched to the lace-up boots and haven't looked back. I started with cabelas ones that have a lace-up boot attached the waders like a boot foot, so that's the best of both worlds. They didn't quite fit right though, so I had to go with stocking foots, they are worth checking out though if you are normal size

LL bean has similar ones: link

I have the Cabelas with the lace up boot attached to the waders. They fit me fine and I love 'em. Agree with Rockport...if they fit, they're the best of both worlds.

Pete F. 03-20-2009 05:18 PM

If you are 6 years on 4 waders you are doing good, depending on how much you fish.
My current favorite wader system is LL Bean Emergers and this time I got LL Bean river something studded. I am too old to wear Korkers all night and walk.

spence 03-20-2009 05:37 PM

I've had good luck with my Simms G3's, although I don't beat on them nearly as hard as some guys do.

It's too bad you're not a female as SierraTradingPost.com has some great deals on them right now.

-spence

numbskull 03-20-2009 05:43 PM

Go with Simms G3 or G4. I did, on #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&'s advice, and have used them hard for 3 years, all in rocks/barnacles, and been very happy. They are easy to patch when you cut them (which isn't often since they are like armor), the seams can be expected to be good and stay good. They are comfortable.

Although they are expensive, there is something to said for buying a product made by someone who cares about what they are producing and works in a small enough company to be held responsible for the quality of his/her work. Simms stands behind their name and their product.

If you plan to cover any distance in rock at night, get spiked wading boots with good ankle support (not the lightest boots on the market) and it will greatly improve your mobility and safety.

Tagger 03-20-2009 05:58 PM

not a big fan of korkers in the rocks ..I'm not use to my feet being so big ,,or hooking under other rocks .. I've fallen so much because of Korkers in boulder fields . I think they are better suited for large slimy rocks on edges of jettys .. I 've been wearing G3's with spiked boots a solid 3 years now .. No misshaps(leaks) but I'm careful .. If you wear breathable stuff under your waders, it is like fishing in your pajamas.. $425 stocking foot waders,,$175 boots .. but I don't own a boat and wife don't need fancy jewlery ..

spence 03-20-2009 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tagger (Post 675590)
not a big fan of korkers in the rocks ..I'm not use to my feet being so big ,,or hooking under other rocks .. I've fallen so much because of Korkers in boulder fields .

Not to mention the added weight.

I rarely wear Korkers any more. Only if I know I'm going to be standing on rocks with a lot of weed. 95% of the time the studded felt is good enough.

-spence

numbskull 03-20-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tagger (Post 675590)
................ $425 stocking foot waders,,$175 boots .. but I don't own a boat and wife don't need fancy jewlery ..

Right. With you on her arm she could be wearing the Hope diamond and people would still feel sorry for her.

NIB 03-20-2009 06:10 PM

:jester:

Pete F. 03-20-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 675596)
Right. With you on her arm she could be wearing the Hope diamond and people would still feel sorry for her.

Tagger, don't worry people say the same thing about him.

Rob Rockcrawler 03-20-2009 09:36 PM

Im going to try on a couple pairs at beans this weekend if i have time. They carry simms, and the shop in wareham has a couple pairs of the gortex simms for 249.00, at least that's what the girl on the phone told me. She said they also have the wet suit kind. I assume she was referring to neoprene. I think beans would be a good place to get simms waders. Over the counter replacement applies to non LL Bean products as well i assume.

spence 03-20-2009 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Rockcrawler (Post 675635)
Im going to try on a couple pairs at beans this weekend if i have time. They carry simms, and the shop in wareham has a couple pairs of the gortex simms for 249.00, at least that's what the girl on the phone told me. She said they also have the wet suit kind. I assume she was referring to neoprene. I think beans would be a good place to get simms waders. Over the counter replacement applies to non LL Bean products as well i assume.

Gore-tex Simms for $249 with a Bean lifetime warranty? That's a pretty good deal.

-spence

numbskull 03-21-2009 05:03 AM

I don't think all Simms waders are equal. If you are going into the rocks you want the G3 or better.........the lighter ones are more delicate. Also, if you are climbing in rocks you want to up size slightly to allow more room in the crotch (except in Flap's case where apparently that's not an issue) and less stress on the seam.

spence 03-21-2009 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 675655)
I don't think all Simms waders are equal. If you are going into the rocks you want the G3 or better.........the lighter ones are more delicate. Also, if you are climbing in rocks you want to up size slightly to allow more room in the crotch (except in Flap's case where apparently that's not an issue) and less stress on the seam.

I think the sizing up might depend on how you're built. I'm generally speaking an XL in most things, and the XL simms give me plenty of room. If I was a portly angler I might agree on the need for more size.

The G3's are much more fitted than any of my Bean waders ever were, which is good, because I didn't trust my Italian tailor to alter them and keep the seams waterproof :hihi:

-spence

basswipe 03-21-2009 01:36 PM

I've had really good luck with Cabelas Gold Medal waders.

Crafty Angler 03-21-2009 01:45 PM

Normmmmmmm...

What's up, dude?

Hey get ya waders ready - the Spring blackfish run is coming...:uhuh:

RickBomba 03-21-2009 05:32 PM

Yeah, my G3's cost me some dough a few years ago, but they rock...got some LLBean wading boots on sale, and I am a Korker fan (summer and winter, they have saved my butt many times).

Mr. Sandman 03-25-2009 01:17 PM

For the price of simms...you could buy a boat in today's market! Seriously!

Raven 03-25-2009 01:34 PM

large feet...
 
ain't so easy to find size 13 in some of the brands

So, i had to go with Cabela's .....
and the shipping (to store)was free

grabbed a wading belt too for underwater fishing :jester:

as for cost......... i'm still under 200 clams :btu:

JohnnyD 03-25-2009 01:34 PM

spence, did I read that right? L.L.Bean provides a lifetime warranty on their waders?

I assume this would only be on the seams. But that would be helpful as my Cabela UltraLights are leaking at the pant-to-boot seam.

Fishpart 03-25-2009 01:38 PM

LL Bean--Quality goods and Great Return Policy
 
Just returned a set of LLBeans, this is my second returned pair. I am very satisfied with them and they replace them no questiosn asked.

JohnnyD 03-25-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishpart (Post 676598)
Just returned a set of LLBeans, this is my second returned pair. I am very satisfied with them and they replace them no questiosn asked.

What was the condition you returned them for?

I can't imagine they'd accept them back if I impaled myself through the waders with a 7/0 hook. Not that I've ever done that before.:hidin:

If this is the case, I see no reason to buy waders from anywhere but LLBean. Any extra expense would pay for itself.

steve 03-25-2009 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tagger (Post 675590)
not a big fan of korkers in the rocks ..I'm not use to my feet being so big ,,or hooking under other rocks .. I've fallen so much because of Korkers in boulder fields . I think they are better suited for large slimy rocks on edges of jettys .. I 've been wearing G3's with spiked boots a solid 3 years now .. No misshaps(leaks) but I'm careful .. If you wear breathable stuff under your waders, it is like fishing in your pajamas.. $425 stocking foot waders,,$175 boots .. but I don't own a boat and wife don't need fancy jewlery ..

I'm not a big fan of Korkers either. I rarely wear them and dread doing so. They cause as many accidents as they prevent. Stick with felt and studs.

bloocrab 03-25-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 676600)
What was the condition you returned them for?

I can't imagine they'd accept them back if I impaled myself through the waders with a 7/0 hook. Not that I've ever done that before.:hidin:

If this is the case, I see no reason to buy waders from anywhere but LLBean. Any extra expense would pay for itself.


Yo Johnny, I've returned a couple of damaged pairs of waders to LLBean..........no questions, no inspections, no trouble at ALL. They exchanged them with a smile and a thank you. You CAN'T beat that. Tried it with Orvis and they grilled me........no more Orvis for me. LLBean all the way.

JohnnyD 03-25-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bloocrab (Post 676646)
Yo Johnny, I've returned a couple of damaged pairs of waders to LLBean..........no questions, no inspections, no trouble at ALL. They exchanged them with a smile and a thank you. You CAN'T beat that. Tried it with Orvis and they grilled me........no more Orvis for me. LLBean all the way.

I may be going there for my next pair.

piemma 03-25-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by steve (Post 676608)
I'm not a big fan of Korkers either. I rarely wear them and dread doing so. They cause as many accidents as they prevent. Stick with felt and studs.

Steve:
I respectfully disagree. I have worn Korkers for pretty much all my surf career (40+ years) and I am a fan of them. Now, I choose not to make a fashion statement and I duck tape my Korkers to my boots. Never have had them come loose. Never had a fall caused by the Korkers. To each his own but I swear by them.

Nebe 03-25-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 676649)
Steve:
I respectfully disagree. I have worn Korkers for pretty much all my surf career (40+ years) and I am a fan of them. Now, I choose not to make a fashion statement and I duck tape my Korkers to my boots. Never have had them come loose. Never had a fall caused by the Korkers. To each his own but I swear by them.

So that is why you walk around like Frankenstein.. I get it now.

Korkers raise your center of gravity a full inch or 2.. unless your wading around at low tide in bubble weed, they as steve said can actually hurt you.. they dont bend easily and because of this they dont conform to rounded rocks...

to each his own I guess.

slow eddie 03-25-2009 05:10 PM

there are certain spots in so. co . i wouldn't even think of going unless i had my korkers on. it's happened to me and many others. i use the black electrical tape. use the siccors after, your good to go.

basswipe 03-25-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crafty Angler (Post 675748)
Normmmmmmm...

What's up, dude?

Hey get ya waders ready - the Spring blackfish run is coming...:uhuh:

CHUCKSTA!

Lemme know when.Jeeez I'm ready,its been a very long last year. Now that pop is all set so to speak I can actually fish this year.

I'll be FLA on 4/2-4/3 for Maiden.When does the season start?To lazy to look it up myself.


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