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Gunpowder 04-13-2009 11:07 AM

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Finally picked up my first waterproof/seriously water resistant reel. Wanted to go Van Staal, but just hadn't been able to save enough yet and found this one. Had been sent to a drilling company in CT then to the Reel Restorer in FL I believe. Thing came out MINT :btu:. Came to about $200 total for all the work done including what I paid for the reel. Can't wait to fish this thing. Saved at least several hundred going this way too. Nothing against VS, but man it seems like everytime I go to check out the prices, they have only gone up :hang:

Here are some pics I took... only a few more weeks till I finally get out of upstate NY and back to the cape!

fumifish 04-13-2009 11:09 AM

very nice! who did the drilling?

Thumper 04-13-2009 11:10 AM

Nice!

Gunpowder 04-13-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fumifish (Post 681292)
very nice! who did the drilling?

A&B Machine in CT

The Dad Fisherman 04-13-2009 12:17 PM

OK I'll bite......how is this a completely water proof reel? I don't see how milling it to look like a VS makes it waterproof.

I would think you would be taking it apart for a teardown after it got dunked a couple of times.

bassballer 04-13-2009 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 681346)
OK I'll bite......how is this a completely water proof reel? I don't see how milling it to look like a VS makes it waterproof.

I would think you would be taking it apart for a teardown after it got dunked a couple of times.


Yeah I don think that reel can be dunked. I did the same to my Penn and I would never dunk it.

Gunpowder 04-13-2009 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bassballer (Post 681383)
Yeah I don think that reel can be dunked. I did the same to my Penn and I would never dunk it.

no i agree totally... i did mention water resistant. i dont plan on swimming with this thing, but if it got wet, i would not mind. i plan on packing it with a lot of grease and hopefully that will help some. it was an alternative to buying a VS right now so i grabbed this one. a lot of my friends have penn reels and dunk them all the time though with no issue. just have to rinse it out and take it apart every now and then to add some more grease. the plus side is that this thing is so easy to take a part, i figured what the heck and bought it. if anyone has a VS they would like to sell for $200, show me the way :hee:

RIROCKHOUND 04-13-2009 02:44 PM

pack the lower unit with grease and it is semi-water proof....

Rockport24 04-13-2009 02:48 PM

I fish penns (bought them right before they stopped being made in the US)
although I don't dunk them regularly, they have been dunked on many occasions and I've never had an issue, I rinse them off and take them to surfland to be serviced maybe once every couple of years!

Those 704's are supposed to be bulletproof anyway, so drilling them probably makes them more so because the water just has more chances to escape before getting in there are screwing the reel up.

Gunpowder 04-13-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockport24 (Post 681391)

Those 704's are supposed to be bulletproof anyway, so drilling them probably makes them more so because the water just has more chances to escape before getting in there are screwing the reel up.

that was my thinking exactly... i know this reel will not be completely "waterproof" but, the longer water sits in the spool area and around it, the greater the likelihood it will sneak into the lower unit and screw with the gears over time... and i think it look pretty sweet :hihi:

Rockport24 04-13-2009 02:55 PM

yeah it does look pretty cool and I think we'll be seeing more "penn stalls" in this economic environment!

JLH 04-13-2009 02:58 PM

Very nice looking reel!

bart 04-13-2009 04:02 PM

you could swim that reel as long as it's properly packed with grease...

Nebe 04-13-2009 04:14 PM

Use blue marine grease. It will not only lubricate, but will also prevent electrolisis
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Backbeach Jake 04-13-2009 04:38 PM

Is it permitted to link a thread from SOL? Nice discussion on using Vaseline and 3-in-one.

The Dad Fisherman 04-13-2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake (Post 681418)
Is it permitted to link a thread from SOL? Nice discussion on using Vaseline and 3-in-one.

I knew those New Jersey Guys are Twisted.......but that just sounds painful...:faga::bshake:

maddog2020 04-13-2009 05:29 PM

Sorry - I'm gonna rain on your parade. ;)

Waste of time & $ IMHO. All those holes do is weaken the cast aluminum pot metal. I LMAO every time I see the "Van Penns". Drilling holes to save weight is an even BIGGER joke. To help get the sand out is a little more valid, but over kill. Few years back I posted (on SOL) how much weight each hole would save in a certain size range.

Penn's drag isn't waterproof nor is anything else on the reel. Sorry - I just don't get it. :p

Van Staal & Zeebaas are machine from SOLID pieces of aluminum. Big difference in strength AND cost. For what a VS costs they should wind line better than they do (seems like larger sizes are OK, many of the smaller ones are coned real bad!). At least the ZB winds the line on evenly. ;)

Hey - some one has to speak some truth. I have no agenda and I'm not paid to promote any one's product. I just tell it like it is.

I like to use my older Penn spinfisher reels without any modifications and have MONO on the spools. I still like fiberglass rods even thought 90% of my rods are graphite or graphite blends. Bucktail jigs catch a lot of fish and STILL work once the paint is chipped off. :) Live eels always seem to catch larger and more fish than any lures I have ever used. Don't get me wrong, I love using PowerPro and Fireline on the newer buttery smooth by Shimano, Daiwa & etc.
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keeperreaper 04-13-2009 05:36 PM

Penn is actually coming out with a reel to compete with VS ZB in the real near future. I talked to the guy on R&D about this at the CR show and said it should have all the features those above mentioned reels have but be about 200 bucks less. Lets hope so.

tattoobob 04-13-2009 05:37 PM

so that means 600 bucks?

Thumper 04-13-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by keeperreaper (Post 681434)
Penn is actually coming out with a reel to compete with VS ZB in the real near future. I talked to the guy on R&D about this at the CR show and said it should have all the features those above mentioned reels have but be about 200 bucks less. Lets hope so.

didn't they say that about 2 or 3 years ago now?

The Iceman 6 04-13-2009 06:00 PM

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Just received my 2nd Penn-Staal from Dave T. I have no complaints.

joe the plumber 04-13-2009 06:58 PM

I think these Penn overhauls are so cool.But.......Those dam 704 drags...They are a drag!!

Gunpowder 04-13-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by maddog2020 (Post 681429)
Sorry - I'm gonna rain on your parade. ;)

Waste of time & $ IMHO. All those holes do is weaken the cast aluminum pot metal. I LMAO every time I see the "Van Penns". Drilling holes to save weight is an even BIGGER joke. To help get the sand out is a little more valid, but over kill. Few years back I posted (on SOL) how much weight each hole would save in a certain size range.

Penn's drag isn't waterproof nor is anything else on the reel. Sorry - I just don't get it. :p

Van Staal & Zeebaas are machine from SOLID pieces of aluminum. Big difference in strength AND cost. For what a VS costs they should wind line better than they do (seems like larger sizes are OK, many of the smaller ones are coned real bad!). At least the ZB winds the line on evenly. ;)

Hey - some one has to speak some truth. I have no agenda and I'm not paid to promote any one's product. I just tell it like it is.

I like to use my older Penn spinfisher reels without any modifications and have MONO on the spools. I still like fiberglass rods even thought 90% of my rods are graphite or graphite blends. Bucktail jigs catch a lot of fish and STILL work once the paint is chipped off. :) Live eels always seem to catch larger and more fish than any lures I have ever used. Don't get me wrong, I love using PowerPro and Fireline on the newer buttery smooth by Shimano, Daiwa & etc.
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hey man... no hurt feelings or anything. i know im not gonna get the same quality as i would have gotten with buying a VS or a ZB, but like i said, i was looking for a close alternative for the money that i had saved thus far. after graduation and gifts (hopefully :happy:) im hoping i will have enough to grab a VS and put on my 1321M. that being said, i appreciate your comments though and respect criticisms :btu:

hyefisherman2 04-13-2009 07:07 PM

sweet reel Mike, i like it!

almost there man

The Iceman 6 04-13-2009 07:22 PM

2nd overhaul was a 706

quick decision 04-13-2009 08:18 PM

It looks cool but the holes were designed orginaly to let the sand out. Thats why they got the nick name "cofee grinders".

Nebe 04-13-2009 08:33 PM

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bloocrab 04-13-2009 11:19 PM

I think it looks GREAT....and will definitely consider giving mine a face-lift in the future, .....:kewl:

However, based on why you say you did it....you'd have been better off putting that $200 bucks toward a future VS. The 704 would have still worked the same without the make-over,,, but I'm not your shrink..........AND... I still LIKE it......a LOT!......

Pete F. 04-14-2009 12:13 AM

I don't pack mine. A little grease on the handle shaft before you stick it in and a little more on the spool shaft. Then bed the side cover in grease. 3-1 motor oil in the body, not too much. Works for me. I use my rods as wading staffs enough so they are underwater, but I don't reel underwater.

Gunpowder 04-14-2009 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bloocrab (Post 681499)
However, based on why you say you did it....you'd have been better off putting that $200 bucks toward a future VS.


i got very impatient up here at school with no reel to look at and decided to just pull the trigger early :gu: very bad excuse/ reasoning lol. but, oh well, make some dollars over the summer and get one for the fall run :bl:


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