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JohnR 08-02-2009 03:28 PM

The #300 Submersible Reel
 
The #300 Submersible Reel. Kidding, well, sort of.

No, I'm not pushing some new $300 reel or any other submersible spinner but I've always joked around that one day I would do one (I'm not capable, really). But shouldn't a $300 reel be realistic?

But playing the theoretical for a little bit, how would you get an affordable reel, with decent reliability and repairability so that you could hold a street price around $300?

Is it even conceivable to forgo the machined billet aluminum, titanium this, and dipped that to make up this fictional reel? So lets have a little fun and build up the Virtual Dunker...

numbskull 08-02-2009 03:59 PM

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Whadda ya mean. I got a submersible reel that I bought for $275 from BB. Here it is. :grins:

Raven 08-02-2009 05:06 PM

yes you can forego the machined aluminum by using the virtual printer method
but it should be made of carbon nano tube technology with a dual seal built in...
same as vessels that haul oil...

problem is... carbon nano tube technology which is in it's infancy is still too expensive,,,,
but the lightness and strength would be unsurpassed.

JohnR 08-02-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 703428)
yes you can forego the machined aluminum by using the virtual printer method
but it should be made of carbon nano tube technology with a dual seal built in...
same as vessels that haul oil...

problem is... carbon nano tube technology which is in it's infancy is still too expensive,,,,
but the lightness and strength would be unsurpassed.


$300 :smash:

spence 08-02-2009 06:25 PM

Does the $300 MSRP have to be at a profit or a loss? :devil2: :hihi:

-spence

JohnR 08-02-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 703443)
Does the $300 MSRP have to be at a profit or a loss? :devil2: :hihi:

-spence


Profit. We're not all subsidized Communists (yet :devil2: :love: :rotf2:)

piemma 08-03-2009 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 703443)
Does the $300 MSRP have to be at a profit or a loss? :devil2: :hihi:

-spence

WOW!!!! A Spence post. Where the hell have you been?????:gh:

DZ 08-03-2009 06:49 AM

Just give me a Penn 706 with infinite silent anti-reverse and a sealed drag weighing around 20-23 ounces - doesn't need to be dunk proof for me. Dunk proof is nice but I fished for many years without a VS. The booming popularity for swimming with the fishes has pushed the demand for waterproof reels - I don't think you can build one for $300.

DZ

Joe 08-03-2009 07:06 AM

If you had that kind of capital, you'd be a fool to spend it developing a fishing reel.

Raven 08-03-2009 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 703440)
$300 :smash:

i held a front fork of a bicycle made out of it
so it is being done. :huh:

JohnR 08-03-2009 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 703486)
If you had that kind of capital, you'd be a fool to spend it developing a fishing reel.

So true, but it never hurts to dream a little :tooth:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven (Post 703489)
i held a front fork of a bicycle made out of it
so it is being done. :huh:

Again, $300 - here is a bike using said technology, discounted half off retail is only $3300 greater than reel budget

Fishpart 08-03-2009 08:29 AM

Why not bend up some SS and injection mold fiberglass reinforced plastic around it, dimensionally stable and rigid enough to hold bearings seals whatever. All screw holes can be machined into SS strip or mold in brass inserts. Groove in molding for a gasket and viola done...

Now to come up with $$$ for tooling..

Raven 08-03-2009 08:51 AM

i realize that carbon fiber technology is expensive...

just seems like the machining process is where the cost of reel making goes sky high....

so when you change technologies you gain advantages.
A reel is allot smaller than a bicycle....

it'll be another ten years i guess.... ayep

Back Beach 08-03-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 703424)
Whadda ya mean. I got a submersible reel that I bought for $275 from BB. Here it is. :grins:

Looks like you still haven't found the homing device, at least I don't see it in the picture...:devil:

Flaptail 08-04-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 703424)
Whadda ya mean. I got a submersible reel that I bought for $275 from BB. Here it is. :grins:

Sucker:smash:

Flaptail 08-04-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DZ (Post 703482)
Just give me a Penn 706 with infinite silent anti-reverse and a sealed drag weighing around 20-23 ounces - doesn't need to be dunk proof for me. Dunk proof is nice but I fished for many years without a VS. The booming popularity for swimming with the fishes has pushed the demand for waterproof reels - I don't think you can build one for $300.

DZ

On Cape here, except for the low rent district that Numbskull and Sauerkraut live in with all those rocks and slime ans sh!t, if you swim with the fishes off of a sand beach you have a real problem on your hands, therefore a ZB or VanZebco is a non-nescesity

FishermanTim 08-04-2009 10:36 AM

Heck, ALL my reels are submersible (just not reusable afterwards):smash::biglaugh::rotf2:

Justfishin' 08-04-2009 08:13 PM

I think I'd try to retrofit an existing reel- a Z series, SS , Shimano, Diawa etc with good seals or machine a body and rotor that has room for all the running gear from one of those reels and good sealed bearings. Like Accurate did with Squidders-

Green Light 08-04-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Justfishin' (Post 703910)
I think I'd try to retrofit an existing reel- a Z series, SS , Shimano, Diawa etc with good seals or machine a body and rotor that has room for all the running gear from one of those reels and good sealed bearings. Like Accurate did with Squidders-


Not that's a idea. Instead of building a $300.00 dunk proof reel, why not just build an after market "conversion kit" for an existing reel. The "conversion" may have to be done in a shop. I.e., instead of re-inventing the wheel, just modify and enhance it.

People make after market parts for cars, so why not reels? Humm...

JohnnyD 08-04-2009 09:43 PM

How about this one?

Cabela's Salt Striker
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0036333120576a.shtml

Sealed drags, sealed bearings. I don't know anyone that has owned one though.

fishbones 08-04-2009 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 703916)
How about this one?

Cabela's Salt Striker
http://www.cabelas.com/p-0036333120576a.shtml

Sealed drags, sealed bearings. I don't know anyone that has owned one though.

I haven't used any of their reels, but I think I read that they'e made in China. I doubt I'd attempt swimming with one, but they could be a decent bargain reel for regular surf fishing. This one looks to have a pretty good customer rating.

JohnnyD 08-04-2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 703917)
I haven't used any of their reels, but I think I read that they'e made in China. I doubt I'd attempt swimming with one, but they could be a decent bargain reel for regular surf fishing. This one looks to have a pretty good customer rating.

I'm pretty sure they are made in China. I was just throwing it out there as it has sealed drags and bearings for only $60 (well, the Fall Cabela's catalog that I got today says $40). So, some modifications on the design could yield the groundwork for a sub-$300 Submersible.

Raven 08-05-2009 04:35 AM

or a way to blow them out with water fittings

without having to disassemble it. :confused:


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