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Goose 02-05-2003 01:34 PM

anchor
 
I considering picking up a ''folding grapnel''. Does ayone have any comments or suggestions on this stlye anchor? 6.5# is the heavyest I've seen. I'm guessing it'll be enough weight to hold an 18' 2500# boat. I intend on useing it as a secondary positioning anchor.

Van 02-05-2003 02:50 PM

I use a graple type anchor off the back to keep me in position near rock piles. The main anchor out the front.

I make my own stainless steel ones with 4 tines. They are light but strong. however, if it gets stuck, a good pull with the boat will bend the tines and out she comes. Then I can bend them back.

So other than making your own, make sure what you buy will be able to bend (if you use it near rocks) or release somehow, and then be bent back.

Hope that helps.
If you want I can show u a pic of what I make/use.

Goose 02-05-2003 02:55 PM

Thanks Van. Sure I'ld like to see a pic.

GBOUTDOORS 02-05-2003 08:01 PM

So Goose what kind of 18' boat weighs 2500# and do you have one????????????????:D :D :D

Goose 02-05-2003 08:21 PM

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Well Greg, the anwser to your question is.........YES!! I finaly broke the bank and decided on your old 18'CC Seaswirl:happy:. You know it was just a matter of time. I didn't want to say anything till it was in the driveway but what the h3ll. Its at the marina waiting for some warmer temps before I bring it home. That boat fits my needs perfect. I can still take out the family in comfort yet it has what it takes to get across the bay with live bait "did I mention it has a 32 gallon live well".:happy: I'm having a hard time sleeping lately and the days seem like weeks.....lol hey, I've been waiting for this for along time. Life is to short , Right Clammer.

Goose 02-05-2003 08:25 PM

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BTW....we named it About Time

This particular day it was well below zero with the wind chill but I realy needed a screen saver.

GBOUTDOORS 02-05-2003 08:57 PM

Take the numbers off that boat NOW!!!!!!!! I paid for that reg. and its mine:af: :af: :af: Tony I will have to let you take me out so I can show you all the goodies on her. I now have the best of both worlds a 21' for off shore and a 18 for the bay:laughs: :laughs:

JohnR 02-05-2003 09:02 PM

Hehehe... Way to go Tony (we're still surfcasting though :af: :D )

Goose 02-05-2003 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnR
(we're still surfcasting though :af: :D )
Your Jam right!! I'll always be surf caster, wrappin a new 9' pretty soon;)

mrmacey 02-05-2003 10:55 PM

congrats tony
 
its an awsome looking boat!! see you out there!!! SOON!!:happy: :happy:

Bill L 02-05-2003 11:04 PM

GOOSE
 
Riding in Style :D

Slipknot 02-05-2003 11:58 PM

Nice Goose :happy: it's About Time :happy:

Congratulations, use it well :D

32 gallons eh:hihi: :kewl:

179 02-06-2003 08:05 AM

Goose,
Congrats on the new boat and welcome to the SB.com boaters club, LOL....

mrmacey 02-06-2003 08:15 AM

oh yea!!
 
hes still in transition but he'll come around to be a true boater!!:happy: :happy: oh yea!! start wrapping boat rods, cause all those 9,10 fters are for casting now you just bounce stuff!!:happy: :happy: :happy:

Van 02-06-2003 08:39 AM

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Very nice''''

Welcome to the dark side !!!!!!!!!!!

As I said here is a pic of the anchor I use to hold my stern towards the rocks, while the main anchor holds the front.

I make these out of stainless steel, and weld them at work.
But I know some guys make em' out of rebar, so that they will also bend if it gets stuck. Only problem there is the mess from rust. Nice thing is they are light so you can throw them and get some decent scope for holding.

Again this style will bend to come out. Oh yea thats a size 10.5 sneaker for scale.

Good luck with the new craft.. How much power on her ??????

Maybe talk to you by radio this season..:D :D

Mr. Sandman 02-06-2003 10:44 AM

van,
I think you have a real market for these! I consider anchors disposable and have trashed many a danforth on the rocks at montauk reefs. Some times they come up so twisted they can not be fixed.

Van 02-06-2003 10:51 AM

Sandman:

Dont think I have not considered it !!!

I was thinking of making the anchor, attaching 30-40 feet of 3/8" line, putting the whole thing in a handy bucket (like I use), and selling them ready to go. They are stainless and DO NOT RUST..
The one I posted I used for many years, I now have a slightly lighter one.

I could make millions !!!!:laughs:

Maybe in my dreams,, but I have thought of making them for local boat/tackle shops. The idea is still kicking around in my head..

Mr. Sandman 02-06-2003 10:54 AM

If you happen to make a few more...count me in.

How well do they hold in the rocks with 40' of line?

mrmacey 02-06-2003 10:55 AM

throw a paten on it
 
cause youll watch someone else get rich with your idea!! hmmmm!im not workin!!:rolleyes:

Goose 02-06-2003 11:00 AM

Don't forget me;)

Mr. Sandman 02-06-2003 11:03 AM

There is something similar out there:
http://www.mightymiteanchors.com/
But I like stainless...Van, if you are taking orders...I need it to hold a 5000# 23' rig :D

Van 02-06-2003 12:08 PM

Hmmm:

Seeing a new market here !!!! LOL

The one I took the pic of is my first "prototype".
I found it was a bit too heavy and if more than 2 tines caught
well it was a B#@%H to get out, my 20 fter with 175 was yanking it like crazy to get it out.

I went to a thinner rod diameter and it works great, and comes out easier, I can even bend it back by hand.

You would be surprised how well they hold. I throw it towards the rockpile, take up slack till it sets and tie it off. sometimes it may break free, then just re-throw it.

Like I said the best thing about it, that also makes it kinda expensive is the stainless construction.

They are not easy to make either, plus the welding is not as easy as welding steel.

I have another one for this season which should be matched perfectly for my size boat.

You guys got me thinking now.........;)

But how many people actually get that close to the rocks and feel the need for a positoining acnchor ?? Other than us !!!

Just say the website, that Mighty mike looks good, and aluminum should hold up well to corrosion. !!

See,,, its already been done.

mrmacey 02-06-2003 05:35 PM

yea but!!
 
we want to see the Quincy Van boston line of anchors!! go into production! i allways tie my anchor off the back its easier for me to pull up!! sometimes it gets so stuck i can go in circles with the boat trying to pull it after 3 or 4 times getting stuck good its like how much is a new anchor!!:happy:

Megabyte 02-06-2003 08:38 PM

Van,

What size rod did you finally decide on?

Van 02-07-2003 09:14 AM

If I had the time I might go into "production"
My buddies have been saying the same thing.
I dunno...

The anchor in the pic i made out of 3/8" too heavy cause'
if more than 2 tines catch its very hard to bend to retrieve.

I made 2 more to see which I like the best.
Last year I used 3/16" rod, it held well, but if only 1-2 tines catch and there was alot of current or wind it came loose.
But 90% of the time it was fine.

I am ready to weld my third one which is 1/4"..It should be perfect.

I also thought I could use thinner tines for the 2 I weld on
so I could split the difference. Say 1/4" main and 1/8 or 3/16 for the other two.

So to answer megabyte's question, 3/8" for bigger boats, maybe reater than 24'.
3/16" for under 20'
1/4 " for 20-24'

Those are estimates, but I think they are pretty close.

Here's a REAL crude diagram of how I use it. This wasy it allows me to fish off the stern and not sway back and forth.

mrmacey 02-07-2003 09:23 AM

love that pic
 
you can be an artist,:laughs: are you planning on going to boat show its at the expo this year,i didnt know that i thought they had it at trade center i wanted to go to noname for lunch ill probably go monday its a holiday for wife maybe wont be so crowded from weekend let me know maybe we can get together

ps i was just talking with wife we went on a date when we first met i didnt have a boat yet but we went to boston to the aqarium and then had dinner at legals so i wanted to take her on harbor cruise but couldnt find one so i came up with idea the T shuttle cost 1.00 was the best little cruise and cheap!! we were just laughing about that!! how much i liked boats even back then!!:happy: :happy:

Van 02-07-2003 09:27 AM

Yes I go every year just to drool....:drool:

I go with my buddies and its almost always the weekend.
Like friday night.

Let me know.

Mr. Sandman 02-07-2003 10:24 AM

Van,
Before you go into production, I think you need to field test a few of the different models...put me down for the 23' 5000# model
:D

Van 02-07-2003 10:44 AM

maybe I should look into how much it would cost to make up a bunch of these, and how much to sell them.

Discounts for SB members !!!!!!!

Mr. Sandman 02-07-2003 10:46 AM

Indeed!...


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