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Karl F 02-16-2010 12:12 PM

same chit, different shovel, or; here we go again
 
Cape proves vital for endangered tern | CapeCodOnline.com

Here come plovers, and beach closures | CapeCodOnline.com



got skiff?

PRBuzz 02-16-2010 12:28 PM

Read in the Globe today, they are going to put out fake nests with hard boiled (chicken) eggs laced with poison to kill the predatory crows attacking the poor little plover's nest.

JohnnyD 02-16-2010 01:01 PM

So almost all the endangered terns stage off the Race and Coast Guard beach for the last few months of the summer. Looks like a recipe for full, summer-long beach closures. They *have* to close the beaches for the plovers in the beginning of the summer and soon, they'll *have* to close the beaches so that people don't disrupt the migratory patterns the endangered term.

Man, I'm glad I bought a kayak.

Slipknot 02-16-2010 01:04 PM

evacuate the whole Cape and close the bridges forever:smash:
the sky is falling

all nonsense:wall:

2na 02-16-2010 02:08 PM

kill the crows

JohnnyD 02-16-2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2na (Post 747878)

The part of that article that interests me is:
"She says eliminating crows would let the seashore reduce its protection of plovers at some beaches."

I doubt that would translate into fewer closures at the Race and more likely was just in anticipation of the outcry about them killing crows so that they can say "hey, this will benefit everyone."

saltfly 02-16-2010 03:36 PM

This is a friggin ploy for REVENUE pure and simple.The word TAKE in all of it is the magic word.They're going to say if the sustainable numbers can be attained by letting birds increase in other areas then they will reduce the closures where human conflict occurs.Exampe...the Seashore spent a bundle at Head of The Meadows parking lot a couple of years ago.Then a plover nest in the adjacent dune closed the lot due to the buffer distance requirements.No Money!Pick a beach.This is what they're after.

JohnR 02-16-2010 05:25 PM

Local shops and hotels that make money on the fisherman will need to speak out on lost revenue. Wonder if Rich has had any feedback from his town...

sokinwet 02-16-2010 07:43 PM

Poisoned eggs??!! I mean really...a few open "buck a bird" bounty days.... live decoys.... 2 3/4"#6's...no more crows...death by lead poisoning.

PRBuzz 02-16-2010 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokinwet (Post 747990)
Poisoned eggs??!!

Wait until somebodies pet dog decides to eat one of them eggs and dies...........no one will care about the coons, coyotes or other egg eaters too much.

JohnnyD 02-16-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokinwet (Post 747990)
Poisoned eggs??!! I mean really...a few open "buck a bird" bounty days.... live decoys.... 2 3/4"#6's...no more crows...death by lead poisoning.

Sounds good to me. But the earthy crunchies won't even let kids fly kites.

saltfly 02-16-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRBuzz (Post 748000)
Wait until somebodies pet dog decides to eat one of them eggs and dies...........no one will care about the coons, coyotes or other egg eaters too much.

NoNoNo:smash:...:fury:remember the fines for people and having domestic animals within the closure area.That's MORE REVENUE.:fury::wall:

saltfly 02-16-2010 09:39 PM

I still can't get over the picture of the Endangered Rosete Tern with 6 bands on its legs.I bet it's a fun migration flight to Brazil :wall:

gone fishin 02-16-2010 10:13 PM

The common Tern is thee one most in residence on CC beaches as well as Sandy Neck and Plymouth. They are not endangered, but most people do not know the difference. I am sure the Botanists will close all the beaches claiming they are Rosette Terns !!! We need to hire professional Botanists to fight for the humans rights to the sand!!

PRBuzz 02-16-2010 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gone fishin (Post 748044)
I am sure the Botanists will close all the beaches claiming they are Rosette Terns !!!

I'd bet that most botanist can't tell the difference between a tern and a gull, need an ornithologist.....botanist = plants.

JohnnyD 02-16-2010 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRBuzz (Post 748054)
I'd bet that most botanist can't tell the difference between a tern and a gull, need an ornithologist.....botanist = plants.

:rotflmao:

Rappin Mikey 02-17-2010 01:10 PM

First plovers, then seals, spade toed toads, now terns, what's next?? Fishing out their I'll always do. Even if I have to become a ninja. But this is getting progressively worster by the minute. Did I just say worster? Oh well. At least the green heads and stable flies aren't endangered yet.:smash:

MakoMike 02-17-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokinwet (Post 747990)
Poisoned eggs??!! I mean really...a few open "buck a bird" bounty days.... live decoys.... 2 3/4"#6's...no more crows...death by lead poisoning.

My thoughts exactly. Could be a lot of fun!

fishonnelsons 02-17-2010 04:26 PM

Give me a frigging gun:wall:

saltfly 02-17-2010 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rappin Mikey (Post 748197)
First plovers, then seals, spade toed toads, now terns, what's next?? Fishing out their I'll always do. Even if I have to become a ninja. But this is getting progressively worster by the minute. Did I just say worster? Oh well. At least the green heads and stable flies aren't endangered yet.:smash:

well....since you asked......Add the Sand Tiger Beetle to the list of what is going to be thrown at everyone.:uhuh::wall:


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