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RIJIMMY 03-12-2010 11:47 AM

heres the absolute bull$hit !
 
Buried in an article on the healthcare bill

"Democrats were still debating how to handle a few items and whether to include a large student loan reform bill in the health care reconciliation package"

so tell me, what the hell does a student loan bill have to do with healthcare? NOTHING!!

but just just like the stimulus, the Dems are like sharks at a whale kill packing in all kinds of crap to a bill we already cannot afford.
OBAMA IS A LIAR!!!!!

Raven 03-12-2010 11:56 AM

why sure it does !
 
it guarantees the health of the Faculty and its students

and all those JOBS that are waiting for them when they graduate.

eastendlu 03-12-2010 01:18 PM

I guess the pubs never do that either as they are known as the party of integrity:smash:. All these clowns in Washington should be flushed term limits on all of them period!!

RIJIMMY 03-12-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eastendlu (Post 753993)
I guess the pubs never do that either as they are known as the party of integrity:smash:. All these clowns in Washington should be flushed term limits on all of them period!!

are you paying attention to the massive debt we now have and the massive expense of this bill? MASSIVE EXPENSE

Nope, the pubs never did it and no what? neither have the dems! Noone has spent this much money EVER!
A bill we cant afford, that most of the country is against, now packed with pork! What a deal.
Have to say it - Hope! Change!

FishermanTim 03-12-2010 01:55 PM

With the way his first year is going, and what we have to look forward to for the next 3 years, it almost makes you want to look forward to 2012.

Is it just me, or does it look like Obama is doing just about everything he can do to destroy our country?
(I mean, just short of pushing the launch button and ending it all at once.)

It's gotten to the point that whenever I hear his voice, I turn off whatever device it is coming from, be it tv or radio.
I feel the same way about our good for nothing Governor as well.
When I see him open his mouth to speak, all I hear is "I'm an idiot, I want your money, there's nothing you can do about it, take it and like it because I'm a democrat and we're always right."

Basically, when Patrick and Obama open their mouths, if they aren't putting their foots in them, crap is coming out of them.
If only more politcians would ACTUALLY keep just ONE of their campaign promises, then I'd be a little less skeptical, but that has as much chance of happening as me meeting bigfoot in the Blue Hills Reservation!

eastendlu 03-12-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 753994)
are you paying attention to the massive debt we now have and the massive expense of this bill? MASSIVE EXPENSE

Nope, the pubs never did it and no what? neither have the dems! Noone has spent this much money EVER!
A bill we cant afford, that most of the country is against, now packed with pork! What a deal.
Have to say it - Hope! Change!

That money has not been spent yet as it has not passed but what has the cost been for all these wars we have been fighting?

RIJIMMY 03-12-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eastendlu (Post 754007)
That money has not been spent yet as it has not passed but what has the cost been for all these wars we have been fighting?

Do you mean the wars that had bi-partisan congressinal approval and that the majority of the country was for? :uhuh:
end the wars, tomorrow, the dems can do it, why havent they?

JohnnyD 03-12-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 753973)
Buried in an article on the healthcare bill

"Democrats were still debating how to handle a few items and whether to include a large student loan reform bill in the health care reconciliation package"

so tell me, what the hell does a student loan bill have to do with healthcare? NOTHING!!

About as much as the articles about being able to carry firearms on federal park lands that the Republicans required to be included in the CARD Act.

Adding completely unrelated articles to bills happens in just about every piece of legislation - it's a bipartisan issue.

striperman36 03-12-2010 07:39 PM

it is a mess and it's bipartisan

JohnnyD 03-12-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by striperman36 (Post 754097)
it is a mess and it's bipartisan

Bingo!!!

spence 03-12-2010 10:19 PM

Funny, RIJIMMY doesn't even know how Congress works :jester:

-spence

scottw 03-13-2010 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FishermanTim (Post 754001)

If only more politcians would ACTUALLY keep just ONE of their campaign promises, then I'd be a little less skeptical, but that has as much chance of happening as me meeting bigfoot in the Blue Hills Reservation!


Obama is keeping his campaign promise...he promised to "remake America"...:uhuh: and there was ample evidence as to how he'd remake it...many just chose to ignore evidence and jump on the Hopey Change bandwagon because it felt good...

I'm glad thigs are going this way...it's going to really hurt but it's probably the jolt that we needed to move away from this progressive slide toward socialism...McCain is a progressive lite...if he were elected it would have just been a slower slide...these current dirt bags are full speed ahead pedal to the metal progressive creeps...they used to try to disguise it but it's all out there now...this is the worst bunch that this country has ever elected...hopefully we've hit botom and can "recover"....but I think there's still a bottom left to hit unfortunately...:uhuh:

JohnnyD 03-13-2010 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 754174)
Obama is keeping his campaign promise...he promised to "remake America"...:uhuh: and there was ample evidence as to how he'd remake it...many just chose to ignore evidence and jump on the Hopey Change bandwagon because it felt good...

I'm glad thigs are going this way...it's going to really hurt but it's probably the jolt that we needed to move away from this progressive slide toward socialism...McCain is a progressive lite...if he were elected it would have just been a slower slide...these current dirt bags are full speed ahead pedal to the metal progressive creeps...they used to try to disguise it but it's all out there now...this is the worst bunch that this country has ever elected...hopefully we've hit botom and can "recover"....but I think there's still a bottom left to hit unfortunately...:uhuh:

Essentially, anyone who isn't hard-lined Conservative must be out for a socialist take-over.

buckman 03-13-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 754181)
Essentially, anyone who isn't hard-lined Conservative must be out for a socialist take-over.

There is some evidence of Government taking over private companies, restricting our daily lives and regulating more and more what eveyone can and can't do. You do live in Ma. don't you JD?

scottw 03-13-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 754181)
Essentially, anyone who isn't hard-lined Conservative must be out for a socialist take-over.

not what I said...you little Hopey Change dupe.. you...:rotf2::rotf2:

RIJIMMY 03-14-2010 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 754154)
Funny, RIJIMMY doesn't even know how Congress works :jester:

-spence

whats funny is morons like you thought Obama was goign to change things. Whats even funnier is that hes telling us he wants to reduce the deficit yet they'll pack the bill full of pork! remember no earmarks!!!

striperman36 03-14-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 754467)
whats funny is morons like you thought Obama was goign to change things. Whats even funnier is that hes telling us he wants to reduce the deficit yet they'll pack the bill full of pork! remember no earmarks!!!

Let's not lower ourselves to their level. It's a terrible bill and I hope it does not pass either the house or senate ever.

spence 03-14-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 754467)
whats funny is morons like you thought Obama was goign to change things. Whats even funnier is that hes telling us he wants to reduce the deficit yet they'll pack the bill full of pork! remember no earmarks!!!

We'll see if the 2011 budget contains any earmarks, the 2010 budget was already in play when he took office.

And thanks to Obama I'm going to see a $2500 tax credit for my step-son's college tuition this year and next.

Gotta love it when the POTUS listens to the people and gives them back their hard earned money to invest as they see fit. :humpty:

-spence

detbuch 03-14-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 754478)
We'll see if the 2011 budget contains any earmarks, the 2010 budget was already in play when he took office.

And thanks to Obama I'm going to see a $2500 tax credit for my step-son's college tuition this year and next.

Gotta love it when the POTUS listens to the people and gives them back their hard earned money to invest as they see fit. :humpty:

-spence

How does giving you a $2500 tax credit for your step-son's tuition make happy the vast majority of those who don't have a child in college, or who payed for tuition previously? Selective redistribution of tax money for a few at the expense of others, like cash for clunkers, college tuition credits, free college . . .just pisses off those who have to pay for the goodies. How about giving back EVERYBODY'S hard earned money. Better yet, how about not taking so much of it away in the first place.

striperman36 03-14-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 754526)
How does giving you a $2500 tax credit for your step-son's tuition make happy the vast majority of those who don't have a child in college, or who payed for tuition previously? Selective redistribution of tax money for a few at the expense of others, like cash for clunkers, college tuition credits, free college . . .just pisses off those who have to pay for the goodies. How about giving back EVERYBODY'S hard earned money. Better yet, how about not taking so much of it away in the first place.

And i pay for my son's tution because of some silly law 'the anti-aid' law passed in this fine state in 1847 by the 'no-name' party!
can't even get a friggin voucher system in this country for education of choice.

fishbones 03-14-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 754478)
Gotta love it when the POTUS listens to the people and gives them back their hard earned money to invest as they see fit. :humpty:

-spence

I don't have a child or step child in college. Do I still get money? Funny that you say he's listening to the people because most people don't want this porky pig health care legislation passed.

TommyTuna 03-14-2010 09:34 PM

With 8,907 posts here I don't believe it was really hard earned money but, hey lets not quibble or spin too much.

TT

Raven 03-15-2010 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishermanTim (Post 754001)
It's gotten to the point that whenever I hear his voice, I turn off whatever device it is coming from, be it tv or radio.

RAVEN: thats where i am too.... can no longer stand to hear even his voice


as much chance of that happening as me meeting bigfoot in the Blue Hills Reservation!

he don't like OBAMA either :grins:

spence 03-15-2010 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 754526)
How does giving you a $2500 tax credit for your step-son's tuition make happy the vast majority of those who don't have a child in college, or who payed for tuition previously? Selective redistribution of tax money for a few at the expense of others, like cash for clunkers, college tuition credits, free college . . .just pisses off those who have to pay for the goodies. How about giving back EVERYBODY'S hard earned money. Better yet, how about not taking so much of it away in the first place.

Nice, so education is = a shiny new car?

That's a stretch. Personally I'm all for Government assistance to help with education.

-spence

spence 03-15-2010 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyTuna (Post 754543)
With 8,907 posts here I don't believe it was really hard earned money but, hey lets not quibble or spin too much.

TT

Your post count is already off, get with the program snarky.

-spence

spence 03-15-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 754541)
I don't have a child or step child in college. Do I still get money?

It takes a village.

This money is going right back towards his education, to help build a stronger country.

-spence

fishbones 03-15-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 754599)
It takes a village.

This money is going right back towards his education, to help build a stronger country.

-spence

Be honest, Spence. How much of that money are you taking out to buy yourself a new European carryall?

spence 03-15-2010 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 754602)
Be honest, Spence. How much of that money are you taking out to buy yourself a new European carryall?

I already have two nice weekend bags and can't seem to justify a third.

Besides, he really needs the money.

-spence

detbuch 03-15-2010 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 754587)
Nice, so education is = a shiny new car?

That's a stretch. Personally I'm all for Government assistance to help with education.

-spence

Actually, making "education" another one of those many select goodies to help a small slice of the population at the expense of the rest does make it, in that sense, equal to a shiny new car. Tuition help for you (at the expense of the rest), a shiny new car for him (at the expense of the rest), an abortion for her (at the expense of the rest), etc., etc., etc. . . . . And the votes come rolling in from those who want their drip from the public tit.

Whenever the Government "assists" anything, it magically becomes more expensive, therefore becoming more in need of assistance, hence, again, becoming even more expensive, and, thereby, becoming even more in need of assistance, and so on. Not to mention how the Government, then, gradually becomes the director and controller. The Government "investment" in education in the past half century has spawned a very expensive education industry that spits out less educated, more needy and helpless tit suckers, so that the Government has needed to "assist" the abortion industry to keep that unsustainable portion of the population to a barely sustainable number of voters who keep the program going.

How's that for "nice."

spence 03-15-2010 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 754614)
Actually, making "education" another one of those many select goodies to help a small slice of the population at the expense of the rest does make it, in that sense, equal to a shiny new car. Tuition help for you (at the expense of the rest), a shiny new car for him (at the expense of the rest), an abortion for her (at the expense of the rest), etc., etc., etc. . . . . And the votes come rolling in from those who want their drip from the public tit.

Whenever the Government "assists" anything, it magically becomes more expensive, therefore becoming more in need of assistance, hence, again, becoming even more expensive, and, thereby, becoming even more in need of assistance, and so on. Not to mention how the Government, then, gradually becomes the director and controller. The Government "investment" in education in the past half century has spawned a very expensive education industry that spits out less educated, more needy and helpless tit suckers, so that the Government has needed to "assist" the abortion industry to keep that unsustainable portion of the population to a barely sustainable number of voters who keep the program going.

How's that for "nice."

It's quite a handsome little rant.

Unfortunately there's this thing called reality...The US higher educational system you so despise is also regarded as the finest in the world.

I'm not sure how many abortions it takes to keep this radical educational enterprise humming along, but I'll bet it's less than the number of taxpayer subsidized cars purchased every year.

-spence


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