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tattoobob 07-14-2010 07:27 PM

Help me understand something
 
Question; 3 guys fishing, all using the same rods basically the same reels, all using Eels, same slow retrieve, casting in the same spot.

Why then does one guy catch 6/7 fish guy 2 catch 2 fish and guy 3 catch nothing?

PRBuzz 07-14-2010 07:29 PM

tattobob was obviously guy #3!:biglaugh:

tattoobob 07-14-2010 07:30 PM

No I was guy #2

good2hook 07-14-2010 07:37 PM

i used to fish a lot on Toms boat(squidhoundjones). We would be into breaking fish, he would catch the bass' and i'd catch blue fish. I turned to him and asked him on a trip a long time ago, how come you're catching bass and i can't? All i'm catching are blue fish. He turns to me as he's on again and said, i'm targeting stripers, i don't want to catch blue fish:smash:.

I went fishing with Rick and my cousin Gilly a while back, all throwing eels, same spot, all between a few feet of each other they caught bass and all i caught was a huge dogfish.:confused:

I feel your pain:wall:

GattaFish 07-14-2010 07:37 PM

Guy # 1 was centered on a sweet spot and the other two guys were on the outer edge.. Possibly structure or some type of underwater disturbance that was good for holding bass just a few feet away from you guys,,,

MrHunters 07-14-2010 07:43 PM

striper eau de toilette

SurfCaster413 07-14-2010 07:45 PM

you where just missing the sweet spot by a few feet thats all, should have crowded number 1 some more lol

JamesJet 07-14-2010 08:17 PM

Scent or structure. Did one pump gas before or smoke cigs, bugspray? Could also be structure as described, underwater eddies and currents can be very specific and one could be pulling bait into a spot and just past it it pulls it out just as fast.
Also I know you said same reel same retrieve but were you all hooking the eel same way, same exact line which can get a bait down a little deeper?
In the end I think its luck or structure - but at least I offered a few other "scientific" thoughts.

O.D. Mike 07-14-2010 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRBuzz (Post 781394)
tattobob was obviously guy #3!:biglaugh:

:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

ivanputski 07-14-2010 09:01 PM

theres slow retrieve with eels, and then there's SLOWER... Also, I have seen some guys cast an eel, and start their slow retrieve almost immediately, without waiting until the eel sinks or swims to the bottom first... their retrieve is in the mid-upper column without even realizing it...

Or its just luck. every dog has his day

Slipknot 07-14-2010 09:54 PM

guy 1 is definately set up in the sweet spot after some current sweeping by some rocks, guy 2 smokes, guy 3 is too far away from sweet spot where the bass are set up

Slingah 07-14-2010 10:05 PM

you will never know...don't even try and figure it out....quit smoking and cast closer to the guy getting all the good fish :)

Slipknot 07-14-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by good2hook (Post 781397)
i used to fish a lot on Toms boat(squidhoundjones). We would be into breaking fish, he would catch the bass' and i'd catch blue fish. I turned to him and asked him on a trip a long time ago, how come you're catching bass and i can't? All i'm catching are blue fish. He turns to me as he's on again and said, i'm targeting stripers, i don't want to catch blue fish:smash:.

I went fishing with Rick and my cousin Gilly a while back, all throwing eels, same spot, all between a few feet of each other they caught bass and all i caught was a huge dogfish.:confused:

I feel your pain:wall:

you fished your plugs too fast


you fished your eel too slow

Tagger 07-15-2010 03:53 AM

happens all the time at the canal ... one guy is set up better in the rip /structure .. the guy outside the rip might as well be home .

numbskull 07-15-2010 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tattoobob (Post 781391)
Question; 3 guys fishing, all using the same rods basically the same reels, all using Eels, same slow retrieve, casting in the same spot.

Why then does one guy catch 6/7 fish guy 2 catch 2 fish and guy 3 catch nothing?

Silly question. Everyone knows what you catch reflects the size of your genitalia. In this case guy # 3 has obviously been married longer than the others,................... and is probably from Franklin to boot.

bassballer 07-15-2010 08:00 AM

Only thing to do in that situation is roll up behind guy#1 and cast over his back and make him feel uncomfortable until he moves.

redlite 07-15-2010 08:27 AM

This scenario has a scientific name, it is called" Gettin' Dan'd".......

Rockfish9 07-15-2010 08:28 AM

There is alot of fire in the water right now, and to be consistanly sucessfull, you must adapt the percieved way you fish....leader size matters, line size matters... and as others have said... retrieve matters... everything is not always as it seems... size of the eel matters as well, a slower, pause and retrieve has been outfishing conventional methods, half dead eels ( beat silly) are outfishing lively ones, most strikes are barely perceptible, in most cases a controlled drift is best, almost like nymph fishing for trout....

The Dad Fisherman 07-15-2010 08:29 AM

Easy Fix....fish alone :hee:

JohnnyD 07-15-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 781450)
Silly question. Everyone knows what you catch reflects the size of your genitalia. In this case guy # 3 has obviously been married longer than the others,................... and is probably from Franklin to boot.

Now, I just moved to Franklin last week. Does that mean I have to become exclusively an eel fisherman?

Bronko 07-15-2010 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 781498)
Now, I just moved to Franklin last week. Does that mean I have to become exclusively an eel fisherman?

Nope, but you should contemplate pissing your wetsuit.

redlite 07-15-2010 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 781498)
Now, I just moved to Franklin last week. Does that mean I have to become exclusively an eel fisherman?

If you wanna catch fish, move out......
Tbag moved....He's have a banner year slammin fish.....
Mike stayed.......Couldn't catch a cold......
RUN.

Steve K 07-15-2010 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivanputski (Post 781423)
theres slow retrieve with eels, and then there's SLOWER... Also, I have seen some guys cast an eel, and start their slow retrieve almost immediately, without waiting until the eel sinks or swims to the bottom first... their retrieve is in the mid-upper column without even realizing it...

Completely agree.

Back Beach 07-15-2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 781498)
Now, I just moved to Franklin last week. Does that mean I have to become exclusively an eel fisherman?

No, but I need a new bitch to wake me up at midnight and take me surf fishing a couple times a week. Since TO moved away last fall my fishing career has become a steaming turd.

Fill out an online application and get it to me asap...so far there's no waiting list and I'll waive the fee....

JohnnyD 07-15-2010 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronko (Post 781499)
Nope, but you should contemplate pissing your wetsuit.

Too late, I already do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back Beach (Post 781512)
No, but I need a new bitch to wake me up at midnight and take me surf fishing a couple times a week. Since TO moved away last fall my fishing career has become a steaming turd.

Fill out an online application and get it to me asap...so far there's no waiting list and I'll waive the fee....

Bob (Makai) speaks highly of you, so I'll consider it.

Back Beach 07-15-2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 781519)
Too late, I already do.



Bob (Makai) speaks highly of you, so I'll consider it.

Bob's the man... need to lower yourself by associating with a clod like me when you already have Bob in your corner.

FishermanTim 07-15-2010 10:15 AM

If the 3 guys were set up along a shoreline (beach or canal) like this:

#1 #2 #3
:fishin: :fishin: :fishin:


and the fish / current was moving in this direction: ->

Then it may just be a case of #1 gets first crack at a fish, or small pod of fish. #2 gets a shot at the ones that weren't spooked by the one caught by #1, and #3 gets nothing because the rest of the pod was spooked by #2.

Then again, it could be just plain bad luck.:grins::grins::grins::grins:

MAKAI 07-15-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tattoobob (Post 781391)
Question; 3 guys fishing, all using the same rods basically the same reels, all using Eels, same slow retrieve, casting in the same spot.

Why then does one guy catch 6/7 fish guy 2 catch 2 fish and guy 3 catch nothing?

Obviously #3 is an unrepentant sinner.:devil2:

tysdad115 07-15-2010 11:02 AM

"Guy 3" shall be known as Andy from now on, its my bad karma rearing its ugly head.

DZ 07-15-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tattoobob (Post 781391)
Question; 3 guys fishing, all using the same rods basically the same reels, all using Eels, same slow retrieve, casting in the same spot.

Why then does one guy catch 6/7 fish guy 2 catch 2 fish and guy 3 catch nothing?

Bob,
If guy #1 does this consistently I'd say he'll outfish others 9 out of 10 trips. He knows what he's doing and he's not telling.

DZ


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