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PaulS 11-01-2011 01:04 PM

Nothing on the sexual harasser?
 
I would have thought you guys would have been all over this. Every statement, deed, action by Obama is dissected here yet someone who sexually harrasses 2 woman gets a pass! How about his flip flopping on whether he remembered that incident and if there was a settlement (I thought he was a hands on, take charge CEO)? And how about Rush and Ann's pulling the race card - I think I saw she even pulled out the "High tech lynching" line.



nothing?

RIJIMMY 11-01-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 897555)
I would have thought you guys would have been all over this. Every statement, deed, action by Obama is dissected here yet someone who sexually harrasses 2 woman gets a pass! How about his flip flopping on whether he remembered that incident and if there was a settlement (I thought he was a hands on, take charge CEO)? And how about Rush and Ann's pulling the race card - I think I saw she even pulled out the "High tech lynching" line.



nothing?

Obama is the president and Cain is one of 10 potential nominees so its a little different. I cant give him a pass or comment since there have been zero details released. We have no idea what the complaint gainst him was? Do you have info? I think the major criticism is that he changed his story in a matter of a few hours, pretty lame performance and I think it will hurt him. very few think he has a chance anyway. Did you hear his two different takes on abortion - it was hilarious, he made no sense.
I dont think this rises to the level of John Edwards banging his staff and having an illegimate child while his wife battled cancer but who am I to say. Did you see Perry's speech in new hampshire? Guy was giddy, pretty funny and much more interesting than Cain.

RIJIMMY 11-01-2011 01:33 PM

here you go, man this is freakin funny. I never liked the guy but do now, he is wacky!

Perry's Cornerstone Speech Highlights - YouTube

PaulS 11-01-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 897562)
Obama is the president and Cain is one of 10 potential nominees so its a little different. I cant give him a pass or comment since there have been zero details released. We have no idea what the complaint gainst him was? Do you have info? I think the major criticism is that he changed his story in a matter of a few hours, pretty lame performance and I think it will hurt him. very few think he has a chance anyway. Did you hear his two different takes on abortion - it was hilarious, he made no sense.
I dont think this rises to the level of John Edwards banging his staff and having an illegimate child while his wife battled cancer but who am I to say. Did you see Perry's speech in new hampshire? Guy was giddy, pretty funny and much more interesting than Cain.

I don't have any more details than you but given that there was a settlement, I'm sure something happened more beyond his holding his hand up to his chin and saying something like your just as tall as my wife. It's hard to rank harrassment but Edwards certainly was as low as you can go. Good point about pres. vs. candidate. Yes, Perry's speech on $/gold and Cain's flip flopping on abortion were funny. I attribute both (and many other mis-statments by candidates/pres.) to the incessant round the clock media coverage.

RIJIMMY 11-01-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 897568)
Yes, Perry's speech on $/gold and Cain's flip flopping on abortion were funny. I attribute both (and many other mis-statments by candidates/pres.) to the incessant round the clock media coverage.

Come on Paul, lets be realistic and just agree on this...both Perry and Cain suck as canditates. It may be the one time we ever agree.
I think it will be Romney vs Obama and I will reluctantly pull the trigger on the R ticket just so I have the right to complain.

fishbones 11-01-2011 02:00 PM

I haven't read an impartial article on the harrassment claims yet, but from the details, it seems like this could have been handled much better by Cain and his people.

The one article I read was from a conservative outlet, so I won't put too much stock in it. But if it's true, it's gonna be bad for him. He won't get the same passes (from voters, not the media) Obama got when he was running for pres.

PaulS 11-01-2011 02:19 PM

I'd take Perry over Cain if he didn't say he wanted to cede from the US. I can't get past that. And I agree it will be Romney vs Obama.

nightfighter 11-01-2011 05:59 PM

Just a couple more voted off the island.....

spence 11-01-2011 07:08 PM

I don't think Cain sexually harassed anybody but it's sure looking like he lied about not doing it.

This is called poor campaign management.
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Fishpart 11-02-2011 06:36 PM

What about the guy who had inappropriate relationship with on of his underlings pretty much lied about it and got re-elected..

Clammer 11-02-2011 08:32 PM

FP STILL ALIVE ><<><><:love:

zimmy 11-03-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishpart (Post 897868)
What about the guy who had inappropriate relationship with on of his underlings pretty much lied about it and got re-elected..

Are you talking about Clinton? Might want to check the dates on that. Maybe you are talking about someone else...

Fly Rod 11-04-2011 07:51 AM

Where was Cain flip flopping on abortion?

He couldn't be any firmer on his stance about abortion. He is against it, period.

I think it should be a woman's right if she does or does not want abortion.

When will we recognize women as 1st class citizens.

Do not rule out Newt.

RIROCKHOUND 11-04-2011 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fly Rod (Post 898220)
Where was Cain flip flopping on abortion?

He couldn't be any firmer on his stance about abortion. He is against it, period. I think it should be a woman's right if she does or does not want abortion.

.

Clear?
So he is against it personally, but they must be legally available if it remains a women's choice. Most against it are against it, period.

I'm pro-choice, but not pro-'everyone get one'-abortion, whatever JimCT thinks...

RIJIMMY 11-04-2011 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fly Rod (Post 898220)
Where was Cain flip flopping on abortion?

.

seriously? I guess you havent heard the John Stossel (sp) Interview? He flip flops mid sentence!

wtf...watch this!

Is Herman Cain Pro-Life? - YouTube

Piscator 11-04-2011 09:34 AM

Why do we never hear about hot chicks sexualy harassing guys? I think we need more of that, might make the world a better place.

PaulS 11-04-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 897640)
This is called poor campaign management.
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I blame the campaign manager for all Cain's missteps. Didn't they think somone was going to ask his view on abortion?

The guy wants to be the next Karl Rove - he has a long way to go.

Fly Rod 11-04-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 898244)
seriously? I guess you havent heard the John Stossel (sp) Interview? He flip flops mid sentence!

wtf...watch this!

Is Herman Cain Pro-Life? - YouTube

Maybe I need a hearing aid, but I thought I heard him loud and clear,"he is pro-life," does not personelly believes in abortion. And government should not be involved with a womens wishes one way or the other.

Like I said I can care less if a woman wants one or not and I will add that as long as my taxes do not contribute to an abortion go ahead and have one.

Did you get a good look at Stossels eyes, were they diolated?

RIJIMMY 11-04-2011 12:07 PM

Maybe I need a hearing aid, but I thought I heard him loud and clear,"he is pro-life," does not personelly believes in abortion. And government should not be involved with a womens wishes one way or the other

so how can you be pro-life and then say the government should not be involved? Thats the very definition of pro choice!
A "womens wishes" equals her "choice"!

Fly Rod 11-04-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 898222)
Clear?
So he is against it personally, but they must be legally available if it remains a women's choice. ....

Of course it must be legally available, at their own expense, not on my dollar. Lets not take a step backwards and use the coat hanger.

Fly Rod 11-04-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 898296)
A "womens wishes" equals her "choice"!

You are correct! Not my choice, not the governments choice, not the churches choice, not the devils choice, but, her choice alone.

A woman's belief could be pro-life before unknowingly becoming pregnant with an un-warnting fetus and may want to become pro-choice and decide to abort.

My question is, if she was blonde, how would she think??

Jim in CT 11-05-2011 10:15 AM

The Dems didn't hold sexual impropriety against Bill Clinton, and they sure as hell didn't hold it against Ted Kennedy. So why do personal ethics matter only with GOP candidates? I'm sorry, but even i fthe claims are true (and that's a huge "if"), I don't feel like getting lectured about morality from the party that elects Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy. Unbelievable double standard.

scottw 11-05-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 898481)
The Dems didn't hold sexual impropriety against Bill Clinton, and they sure as hell didn't hold it against Ted Kennedy. So why do personal ethics matter only with GOP candidates? I'm sorry, but even i fthe claims are true (and that's a huge "if"), I don't feel like getting lectured about morality from the party that elects Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy. Unbelievable double standard.

"An organizer working in and for an open society is in an ideological dilemma to begin with, he does not have a fixed truth -- truth to him is relative and changing; everything to him is relative and changing.... To the extent that he is free from the shackles of dogma, he can respond to the realities of the widely different situations...." Saul Alinsky

PaulS 11-05-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 898481)
The Dems didn't hold sexual impropriety against Bill Clinton, and they sure as hell didn't hold it against Ted Kennedy. So why do personal ethics matter only with GOP candidates? I'm sorry, but even i fthe claims are true (and that's a huge "if"), I don't feel like getting lectured about morality from the party that elects Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy. Unbelievable double standard.

Someone who makes comments about woman's looks discussing morality is hilarious.:rotf2: I thought the repubs. where the party of morals?

Jim in CT 11-05-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 898498)
Someone who makes comments about woman's looks discussing morality is hilarious.:rotf2: I thought the repubs. where the party of morals?

Who discussed women's looks?

God damn right we're the party of morality. So if genuinely righteous conservatives want to hold this against Cain, I'm fine with that. But when the party whose motto is "if it feels good, do it, and screw the consequences" suddenly gets selective about ethics, that's a double standard.

scottw 11-05-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 898510)
Who discussed women's looks?

I'm sure that Paul has never made a comment about or discussed a woman's looks :uhuh: not that there's anything wrong with that:hihi:

PaulS 11-05-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 898510)
Who discussed women's looks?

God damn right we're the party of morality. So if genuinely righteous conservatives want to hold this against Cain, I'm fine with that. But when the party whose motto is "if it feels good, do it, and screw the consequences" suddenly gets selective about ethics, that's a double standard.

Rachel Madow - a week or 2 ago. Cain's ratings and donations hit record levels right after this came out. Rush, Coulter and others came right to his defense. Where is the criticism from the Rebubs.? There is the double standard. I've always said both parties are the same but Scott doesn't think so.

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 898522)
I'm sure that Paul has never made a comment about or discussed a woman's looks :uhuh: not that there's anything wrong with that:hihi:

Not in a public forum just because I dislike her politics. You find a picture of Madow in a bikini that she posted, then she's open game.

fishbones 11-05-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 898522)
I'm sure that Paul has never made a comment about or discussed a woman's looks :uhuh: not that there's anything wrong with that:hihi:

Check out some old threads about Sarah Palin. I remember Paul making some comments about her looks. But it's different when it's a whack job Republican woman, so I guess it's doesn't count.
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PaulS 11-05-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 898540)
Check out some old threads about Sarah Palin. I remember Paul making some comments about her looks. But it's different when it's a whack job Republican woman, so I guess it's doesn't count.
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Did I call her a dog, animal or something similiar?

Jim in CT 11-05-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 898534)
Rachel Madow - a week or 2 ago. Cain's ratings and donations hit record levels right after this came out. Rush, Coulter and others came right to his defense. Where is the criticism from the Rebubs.? There is the double standard. I've always said both parties are the same but Scott doesn't think so.



Not in a public forum just because I dislike her politics. You find a picture of Madow in a bikini that she posted, then she's open game.

I didn't know you were talking about me...guilty as charged, Rachael Maddow is a repugnant beast, and a deranged hate-monger. I don't just dislike her politics...she is an intellectually dishonest, sniveloing coward who, like just about everyone else at that network, refuses to engage in smart people who disagree with her.

"Where is the criticism from the Rebubs.?"

Criticism for WHAT? Anonymous women who have made vague allegations? What should we do, lynch Cain on the spot?

The hypocrisy is glaring on the left, because if Cain was liberal, all the liberal jerks would be saying that he is presumed innocent. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be hysterical. Liberals are extremely selective about this presumption of innocence. For example, the Duke lacrosse players (rich white jocks accused of raping a poor black girl) were villified by those "tolerant" folks on the left, right off the bat.

The other hypocrisy is the liberal notion that Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy were worthy of public office, but Cain is not? Have fun with that...


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