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PaulS 05-29-2012 02:47 PM

Garfish - Needlefish?
 
Was fishing a river last week about 6 miles from the ocean. We saw 2 of what looked to be needlefish or garfish swimming next to each other in the fast moving current. They were about 15" long. No one there has ever seen anything like it there. Any idea if they were needlefish or garfish? Can either fish live in fresh water and are they likely to be that far upriver? Or could it have been something else?

Thanks

GregW 05-29-2012 03:17 PM

Gar are freshwater.
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chefchris401 05-29-2012 04:08 PM

Probably needlefish. The rivers behind my house get em from time to time sometimes way way up river where it's more brackish than salt.

Cool looking fish
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Sundowner 05-30-2012 08:04 AM

I saw a guy catch a needle fish about 3 miles from the ocean last year, couldn't believe how big it was, had to be near 20"

Rob Rockcrawler 05-30-2012 08:33 AM

I saw a few this weekend while squidding off the beach. They were 4-6 inches long. Stubby needle anyone?

JLH 05-30-2012 09:57 AM

We often see tons of needlefish at night while out blue crabbing in the bays & estuaries. Some of them are pretty good sized, well over a foot long, and they will be hanging right on the top almost motionless… seeing how they act has given me more confidence fishing the plug of the same name.

Haven’t been out crabbing yet his year but I have seen a few of them in a local breachway...

moosh 05-31-2012 08:30 PM

I caught one by accident about three years ago in cotuit harbor ,snagged it on a 5" needle fish how bizzar is that, it was about 12" long and it was a gar. prehistoric looking bastard....

Dick Durand 05-31-2012 09:15 PM

Last summer while casting in a local river for skipjacks to use as fluke bait, long needlesfish kept following my tiny surgical tube rig. Someone next to me caught one that measured 18".

RIROCKHOUND 06-01-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by moosh (Post 941864)
I caught one by accident about three years ago in cotuit harbor ,snagged it on a 5" needle fish how bizzar is that, it was about 12" long and it was a gar. prehistoric looking bastard....

Gars are freshwater
They are Atlantic Needlefish
Pretty common in the estuaries during the summer
Atlantic Needlefish ( Strongylura marina ) - Atlantic Needlefish information - Atlantic Needlefish facts - WildAnimalsOnline.com

timmah 06-01-2012 11:26 AM

On another strange note, I snagged a 2inch Seahorse while squidding on tuesday. Not sure if this is a rare occurrence.

JohnR 06-01-2012 01:37 PM

I've seen Needlefish on the Vineyard several times under the lights at the Fisherman's pier.

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Originally Posted by timmah (Post 941953)
On another strange note, I snagged a 2inch Seahorse while squidding on tuesday. Not sure if this is a rare occurrence.

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basswipe 06-02-2012 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moosh (Post 941864)
I caught one by accident about three years ago in cotuit harbor ,snagged it on a 5" needle fish how bizzar is that, it was about 12" long and it was a gar. prehistoric looking bastard....

Certainly possible as many species of gar can be found in marine environments though this is rare.

Wikipedia:

In American English the name gar (or garpike) is strictly applied to members of the Lepisosteidae, a family including seven living species of fish in two genera that inhabit fresh, brackish, and occasionally marine, waters of eastern North America, Central America, and the Caribbean islands.

From Audubon:

Alligator Gar
HABITAT
Large rivers, sluggish lakes, bayous, and reservoirs; frequently enters brackish and marine waters in coastal areas. Young in or near aquatic vegetation.

Rob Rockcrawler 06-02-2012 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JLH (Post 941528)
We often see tons of needlefish at night while out blue crabbing in the bays & estuaries. Some of them are pretty good sized, well over a foot long, and they will be hanging right on the top almost motionless… seeing how they act has given me more confidence fishing the plug of the same name.

Haven’t been out crabbing yet his year but I have seen a few of them in a local breachway...

I was surprised to see quite a few Blue Crabs swimming about .5 miles off shore of a Breachway. Its a little early isnt it? Like everyhting else this year i suppose.

thefishingfreak 06-03-2012 08:29 PM

Needlefish will live in a cooler of crap water all day. We netted some at the Chatham pier, dragged them all over the ocean and they were still alive in the cooler when we got the boat back to Boston
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