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AL617 07-18-2012 06:50 PM

Plovers shut down p.i.
 
Refuge News & Updates
Please Note: Effective immediately, the entire refuge beach is closed to all public access, including that portion of the beach that is normally open at Lot 1. The decision to close the beach was made because of the movement of federally threatened piping plovers and their chicks into the area of the Lot 1 beach. The beach closure will be lifted once the plovers have left the closed areas for three consecutive days. The decision to reopen the beach will be announced on this web site.

Rob Rockcrawler 07-18-2012 07:35 PM

Wow, i have heard of them closing beaches to ORV traffic but not to all public access. That seems totally unreasonable.

Finaddict 07-18-2012 08:33 PM

I am surprised that the coyotes haven't eaten them all, or some random feral cat ... have to believe they exist on the refuge.

jasonsnova 07-18-2012 08:55 PM

boy if i was a surfcast guy id be pissed.....

BigFish 07-18-2012 08:58 PM

Probably 3 or 4 birds??? Really??? What a waste.....foxes will get them eventually anyway!!:smash:

Rappin Mikey 07-18-2012 09:02 PM

Don't worry, happens all the time on the outer Cape. You'll be back out there by December 31st.

1dozenraw 07-18-2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Rockcrawler (Post 949258)
Wow, i have heard of them closing beaches to ORV traffic but not to all public access. That seems totally unreasonable.

The stretch of beach between Green Hill and Moonstone has been closed to foot traffic for several years from May to October or so. At low tide it can be walked in the water. However everything else from the waterline over the dunes and down to Trustom Pond is closed.

JohnnyD 07-18-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Rockcrawler (Post 949258)
Wow, i have heard of them closing beaches to ORV traffic but not to all public access. That seems totally unreasonable.

They *have* to close the beaches. Someone might step on a plover chick while casually walking on the beaches.

All this is, is a perfect example of "give the government and inch, and they'll take a mile." All people have been far too complacent in allowing Uncle Scam to shut down beaches based on an ineffective number of plovers intruding on specific beaches. Two bird decide to nest near a beach access point and an entire beach is shut down to hundreds of people. I just doesn't make any sense.

The birds nest in tidal zones, nest in areas of high exposure to predators and refuse to nest in close proximity to one another - they *should* be extinct.

Finaddict 07-18-2012 10:23 PM

I was speaking with someone over the weekend about the number of birds on the island, they said it was more like 16 pairs ... which still isn't all that much, but it certainly is more than I thought.

JohnnySaxatilis 07-18-2012 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 949278)

The birds nest in tidal zones, nest in areas of high exposure to predators and refuse to nest in close proximity to one another - they *should* be extinct.

THANK YOU!! stupid plovers

Jackbass 07-19-2012 05:08 AM

They are frigging stupid. Think about it a bird that hasn't figured out how to conceal their nests or their young and protect their own well being sounds like natural selection at work. They nest in tire tracks for cryin out loud.
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Rockfish9 07-19-2012 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Finaddict (Post 949265)
I am surprised that the coyotes haven't eaten them all, or some random feral cat ... have to believe they exist on the refuge.

this is nothing new.. they have been closing that stretch of beach since the 80's.... plenty of coyotes( they are very vocal this time of year while bringing back live prey to their young) in the area.. but the skunks do the most damage to the nests/eggs.. it's just one more reason why i fish from a boat on Plum Island...

ProfessorM 07-19-2012 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockfish9 (Post 949299)
it's just one more reason why i fish from a boat on Plum Island...

cheater:)

JohnnySaxatilis 07-19-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorM (Post 949306)
cheater:)

talk about the pot callin the kettle black :hee: beige tin boat

Rockfish9 07-19-2012 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorM (Post 949306)
cheater:)

It's not how you play the game.. it's how many you can catch...:wave:... and I REALLY cheat... I use eels.:uhuh:

Pete F. 07-19-2012 09:01 AM

Are they the same birds I see nesting on ballasted roofs?

ProfessorM 07-19-2012 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis (Post 949307)
talk about the pot callin the kettle black :hee: beige tin boat

LOL. I Haven't been out in that thing in a month. I am fishing from my other boat now:).

I have fished that area with Joe in his boat. I was just pulling his leg as I am not worthy to carry his giant pail of eels.:uhuh:


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