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medicmike72 10-20-2013 07:33 PM

new surf rod?
 
hey guys I am in the market for a new surf rod and not sure what to buy. I have always fished from a kayak and the 6 1/2 foot rod does not cut it in the beaches. I have heard from a few people to get a 10 foot rod but not sure what brand or model to get. I have heard St. Croix Mojo and and I have heard a few say Tsunami. I dont mind spending 200.00 on a rod but not sure what I should lean towards. Thanks in advance.

mike

JohnR 10-21-2013 06:28 AM

MM - welcome to S-B.

What are you looking to throw with it? Weight? And roughly wear? What reel will you match up to the rod?

stripermaineiac 10-21-2013 07:08 AM

from what I'm seeing and hearing be carefull of the St croixs. they sent production of the longer rods over seas. Saw 3 of the newer models and the Mojo's break between the furrell and the ist guide while casting a plug. 2 were using darters,SS an Tatoo the other one of my 3.5 oz needles.Plus the reel seat glue failure problem seems to be back again.

HESH2 10-21-2013 07:46 AM

any feed back on tfo's 9 ft rods.looking at 1 now.

piemma 10-21-2013 08:22 AM

Don't know where you live but if your budget can afford it go over to CMS and have Charlie either build you a 10' Rainshadow or the new lami composite and get the exact rod you want for what you will fish with and where you fish. Expect to pay from $265 to $400 or so.

stripermaineiac 10-21-2013 09:26 AM

Didfn't a couple guys have them up for sale here. i seem to recal a couple sweet rods with very nice prices on them in the site want adds so to speak.

tlapinski 10-21-2013 10:13 AM

As far as off-the-shelf surf rods, the Tsunami Air Wave Elite surf rods are a steal at their sub-$200 price point. I have the 11-footer and really like it.

http://www.biminibayoutfitters.com/tsuairwaveelite.htm

BobT 10-21-2013 11:51 AM

Check on a TFO. I've had one for two years and love it. It's the 2-8oz model. $200.00.

Liv2Fish 10-21-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stripermaineiac (Post 1018459)
from what I'm seeing and hearing be carefull of the St croixs. they sent production of the longer rods over seas. Saw 3 of the newer models and the Mojo's break between the furrell and the ist guide while casting a plug. 2 were using darters,SS an Tatoo the other one of my 3.5 oz needles.Plus the reel seat glue failure problem seems to be back again.

My brother had an issue with his reel seat on his mojo and returned it for a St. Croix Avid. The first night, the upper grip came unraveled and the reel seat came completely unglued.

massbassman 10-21-2013 02:48 PM

Have there been any issues with the Legends?

Liv2Fish 10-21-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by massbassman (Post 1018523)
Have there been any issues with the Legends?

Yes - the price - $480!

5/0 10-21-2013 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Liv2Fish (Post 1018520)
My brother had an issue with his reel seat on his mojo and returned it for a St. Croix Avid. The first night, the upper grip came unraveled and the reel seat came completely unglued.

I have two of the St Croix avid surf 10' spin and casting not a problem with either one,I bought them both back on 2001.
He might of had one from a bad batch?
G Loomis has a great warranty on there products a little more mony but...
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tlapinski 10-21-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by massbassman (Post 1018523)
Have there been any issues with the Legends?

Both of mine broke last year and I know of at least 3 others that broke in the same spot in the blank (just above the fore grip) since then.

massbassman 10-21-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Liv2Fish (Post 1018526)
Yes - the price - $480!

:rotf2:... Agreed!!

medicmike72 10-21-2013 03:28 PM

I am going to be putting a battle 6000 on it with power pro. I will be mainly plugging with it. I have seen the tsunami airwave and was wondering if it's more bang for my buck.
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massbassman 10-21-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tlapinski (Post 1018530)
Both of mine broke last year and I know of at least 3 others that broke in the same spot in the blank (just above the fore grip) since then.

Not what I wanted to hear! I bought it last winter before I had surgery on my shoulder. It's never seen water, in fact it still has the price tags on it.

Anyone need a new rod?:smash:

1dozenraw 10-21-2013 03:33 PM

Where are you located. I only have 1 piece customs, but I may be thinning the herd out.

massbassman 10-21-2013 03:35 PM

Were you fighting fish Toby, or was it during a cast when the rod was loaded? Just curious.

medicmike72 10-21-2013 03:39 PM

I am in central mass
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1dozenraw 10-21-2013 03:43 PM

Well, if I figure out what I'm selling it will be in the Classifieds. What would I look for if I was you? If you are throwing lighter plugs... Lami GSB 1201L...
Heavier 1201M are good basic... a bit old school. I also have the 9' versions of these. They tend to sell under $200.

medicmike72 10-21-2013 04:25 PM

I am in central mass
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GattaFish 10-21-2013 04:57 PM

Grab the lami 1201m. If not the wait until Christmas or after when guys are short on cash. They almost always pop up here.
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medicmike72 10-21-2013 06:26 PM

Any input on the tsunami airwaves
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Stewie 10-21-2013 06:31 PM

Go see Onedozenraw. He has waaay too much of everything and is a good, honest man. The trip to SoCo will be worth the savings on a good used rod. Bring your other gear with you. You'll be glad you met him.

striperswiper75 10-21-2013 06:33 PM

For the price a used 120M is a great all around rod for almost any condition. Been around for a long time; definitely a reason for its longevity in the surf market.
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tlapinski 10-22-2013 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by massbassman (Post 1018537)
Were you fighting fish Toby, or was it during a cast when the rod was loaded? Just curious.

Both on the cast. 9' 3/4 - 4 was on a 2-3/8 SS popper and the 11' (3 - 6 I think) broke on a medium size rigged eel.

tysdad115 10-22-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GattaFish (Post 1018552)
Grab the lami 1201m. If not the wait until Christmas or after when guys are short on cash. They almost always pop up here.
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I picked up a 1201M last off season for eels and plugging in the surf, love the rod.

JohnR 10-22-2013 10:23 AM

1201m - best all around rod still?

massbassman 10-22-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tlapinski (Post 1018619)
Both on the cast. 9' 3/4 - 4 was on a 2-3/8 SS popper and the 11' (3 - 6 I think) broke on a medium size rigged eel.

That's discouraging, i've always liked and used their products, and hope this is just a bad run of blanks. With the price you pay, you would expect great quality, but I guess more doent mean better these days. Any issues I've ever had have been promptly addressed, hopefully they stood behind your rods. I bought the 10' 6"... only wish I had heard this earlier in the year, probably would have made a different decision.

SeaWolf 10-22-2013 03:14 PM

massbass, i love my 2 legends and have the same 2 as toby. my 3-8 11' is my favorite rod, but i know it could be a ticking time bomb. it's doesn't change how i fish them tho. hearing toby's issues on top of other's issues w/ all of the st croix surf rods and blanks made me no longer build or offer them. ones said to be fixed still had the issue.

anyhow, to answer the question in this thread, yes, a used GSB1201M would be a great deal. a lot depends on what reel you have, where you plan to fish and what you plan to throw. what ever you get, look for a rod with lighter guides, Fuji K-guides, NGC-guide design, or low riders. you want a light rod to make your experience more fun and enjoyable. an older GSB built on cone-of-flight guide design w/ big guides makes a great blank only ok. take a ride to a reputable tackle shop and check out some of the production rods on the wall and see what feels good too and maybe come back and get opinions on 1 or more of those rods too.


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