Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating (http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/index.php)
-   Political Threads (http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/forumdisplay.php?f=66)
-   -   Cuba (http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/showthread.php?t=87401)

JohnR 12-17-2014 12:20 PM

Cuba
 
Wow. This could be good. The Castro brothers time is closing, good time to pull back into our sphere of influence in a positive manner. Magnificent possibilities.

Hope Obama doesn't screw this up too.

FishermanTim 12-17-2014 03:11 PM

Maybe see about investing in Cuban cigars???

spence 12-17-2014 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1059361)
Hope Obama doesn't screw this up too.

Worse, He could have caused it in the first place.

detbuch 12-17-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1059391)
Worse, He could have caused it in the first place.

That's okay because Bush, or McCain, or Romney would have done the same thing.

JohnR 12-17-2014 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1059391)
Worse, He could have caused it in the first place.

No, he did not cause it but he has shanked most things that cross his desk.

But I understand, he probably has a Che shirt in his closet. Ya know, trendy and all.

detbuch 12-17-2014 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1059361)
Wow. This could be good. The Castro brothers time is closing, good time to pull back into our sphere of influence in a positive manner. Magnificent possibilities.

Hope Obama doesn't screw this up too.

I don't think Obama is concerned with our sphere of influence. I think he considers that an outdated notion of American superiority which flies against the progress of history. I think he subscribes to a global sphere of influence which breaks down borders and rejects the idea that individuals are masters of their fate who can succeed to a good life on their own. That he favors a global collective in which all cooperate under the governance of a worldwide network of experts who can create the parameters for egalitarian justice and opportunity. A world where every citizen is equal in every reasonable respect, and can only rise above the rest if done so in service to the larger communities. A world in which we are not subjects of greedy capitalists, but rather are happy, healthy, subjects of an enlightened and beneficent ruling class which sees to it that we are free, as FDR said, from want and fear. And that we therefor are provided with a cradle to grave safety net, with justly provided employment with no disparity in wages, with universal government provided health care, with as close to a socialist utopia as possible.

What he does at a record pace in his final two years will be a step in that direction. Cuba is just a small but significant preliminary piece. If "normalizing" relations with Cuba turns it into some booming capitalistic Hong Kong, then I think he will consider that to have been a screw up.

Raven 12-18-2014 05:16 AM

shanked... :rotflmao: most excellent choice of verbs there Bossman

justplugit 12-18-2014 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1059408)
I think he subscribes to a global sphere of influence which breaks down borders and rejects the idea that individuals are masters of their fate who can succeed to a good life on their own. That he favors a global collective in which all cooperate under the governance of a worldwide network of experts who can create the parameters for egalitarian justice and opportunity. A world where every citizen is equal in every reasonable respect, and can only rise above the rest if done so in service to the larger communities. A world in which we are not subjects of greedy capitalists, but rather are happy, healthy, subjects of an enlightened and beneficent ruling class which sees to it that we are free, as FDR said, from want and fear. And that we therefor are provided with a cradle to grave safety net, with justly provided employment with no disparity in wages, with universal government provided health care, with as close to a socialist utopia as possible.

.

Scary scenario for Freedom and Liberty.

Redsoxticket 12-18-2014 11:00 PM

I like watching the old cars in the back ground when the reporters are broadcasting.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

spence 12-19-2014 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1059400)
That's okay because Bush, or McCain, or Romney would have done the same thing.

Different. Clearly Obama is moving to make the USA more like Cuba.

Raven 12-19-2014 08:48 AM

yeah
 
hollywood could have a Blast with all the old Cuba Automobiles

detbuch 12-19-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1059529)
Different. Clearly Obama is moving to make the USA more like Cuba.

Same. Yes.

CTSurfrat 12-20-2014 10:04 AM

I fear we are getting into bed with yet another country that will take our aid and money and then just stab us in the back when the time is right. They have already been caught red-handed trying to help our enemies!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-26210187


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:24 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com