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JohnR 02-17-2015 01:33 PM

Rhode Island Charter Boat limit 1 or 2 fish
 
As many of you know, Rhode Island DEM is considering whether to allow RI Charter boats to have 1 fish or 2 fish each for their clients.

I want to create a poll to see what the members here think. The options are:

1 I am a Rhode Island resident and I propose 1 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
2 I am a Rhode Island resident and I propose 2 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
3 I am not a Rhode Island resident and I propose 1 fish per client on RI Charter Boats
4 I am not a Rhode Island resident and I propose 2 fish per client on RI Charter Boats

thefishingfreak 02-17-2015 02:08 PM

Haha, why not just say Mike, Mike, Ronnie & Steve take a step to the left :hang:

tlapinski 02-17-2015 02:34 PM

Is this just for informational purposes or is this going to be provided to RISAA, RI DEM, etc?

JohnR 02-17-2015 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1065072)
Haha, why not just say Mike, Mike, Ronnie & Steve take a step to the left :hang:

Because RI residents have most bearing on RI management folks. When I was going to A6 meetings in Mass I announced that I was from RI.

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Originally Posted by tlapinski (Post 1065074)
Is this just for informational purposes or is this going to be provided to RISAA, RI DEM, etc?

I am considering sending to RI DEM. They are accepting correspondence until Feb 26th

Linesider82 02-17-2015 03:35 PM

As a state with angling reciprocity what's the difference resodent or non?
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buckman 02-17-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1065072)
Haha, why not just say Mike, Mike, Ronnie & Steve take a step to the left :hang:

Lmao !
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JohnR 02-17-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Linesider82 (Post 1065082)
As a state with angling reciprocity what's the difference resodent or non?
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The same as if I sent a letter to the CT DEM people "As a concerned Rho Dyslundah"...

MakoMike 02-17-2015 04:14 PM

Why are the results hidden?

thefishingfreak 02-17-2015 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 1065090)
Why are the results hidden?

Because what if the results aren't as everyone thought! :mushroomcloud:
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JohnR 02-17-2015 05:10 PM

Results will be displayed at end of poll in 5 days - one vote per user. Far from scientific but reduces likelihood of someone leaning on a particular button

Sundowner 02-17-2015 10:51 PM

So correct me if I am wrong..though MA&CT may vote option 1, if RI votes option 2, MA & CT vessels can take their non licensed charters to RI waters and take 2 fish?

Sundowner 02-17-2015 11:22 PM

and not for nothin', but who that votes here is from RI?

-sorry, re-read non resident option. Apologies.

thefishingfreak 02-18-2015 07:10 AM

The charter boats have to buy a permit to licence everyone on board, so stop saying they are "non - licenced".
the customers might not all have individual saltwater licences, but they are all indeed licenced.
where you land, dock or trailer depends your limits
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Raider Ronnie 02-18-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1065142)
The charter boats have to buy a permit to licence everyone on board, so stop saying they are "non - licenced".
the customers might not all have individual saltwater licences, but they are all indeed licenced.
where you land, dock or trailer depends your limits
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Not to mention besides the "vessel for hire" salt water fishing lic (Ma.) And that cost on 6x the recipient fee say a charter captain decides to loose his mind and join in on the nonsense that goes on at the canal or any other surf destination we also need a recent salt water lic.
Then say I accept an invite on a rec owners boat for the day, need a rec license also.
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MakoMike 02-18-2015 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundowner (Post 1065135)
So correct me if I am wrong..though MA&CT may vote option 1, if RI votes option 2, MA & CT vessels can take their non licensed charters to RI waters and take 2 fish?

Only if they have a charter/party license in RI.

DZ 02-18-2015 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundowner (Post 1065135)
So correct me if I am wrong..though MA&CT may vote option 1, if RI votes option 2, MA & CT vessels can take their non licensed charters to RI waters and take 2 fish?

I was told that because of reciprocity they could take 2 but would have to land them in RI (example RI boat ramp/boat slip). Then it becomes a possession limit in the state they are going to. But the odds of getting caught with 2 fish in a 1 fish state would be miniscule.

Fishpart 02-18-2015 07:58 PM

Bump

iamskippy 02-19-2015 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DZ (Post 1065159)
I was told that because of reciprocity they could take 2 but would have to land them in RI (example RI boat ramp/boat slip). Then it becomes a possession limit in the state they are going to. But the odds of getting caught with 2 fish in a 1 fish state would be miniscule.

I disagree DZ, all EP would have to do is set up by the 3rd can and patrol BI, that is the area that really needs to be protected. We pay for.licensing now and i would expect a larger presence with more pressure and published fines. I also think stiffer penalties needs to be enforced, for example when your boat and gear is taken its auctioned off not returned after you pay the fines....

EP needs a larger presence in this state Lord knows i have seen way to many this winter on the ocean front...

Off-topic question, down by Monahan there is a boat.parking only, who do you call when surfers are parked there?
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Nebe 02-19-2015 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by iamskippy (Post 1065203)
I disagree DZ, all EP would have to do is set up by the 3rd can and patrol BI, that is the area that really needs to be protected. We pay for.licensing now and i would expect a larger presence with more pressure and published fines. I also think stiffer penalties needs to be enforced, for example when your boat and gear is taken its auctioned off not returned after you pay the fines....

EP needs a larger presence in this state Lord knows i have seen way to many this winter on the ocean front...

Off-topic question, down by Monahan there is a boat.parking only, who do you call when surfers are parked there?
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there is only one parking spot for a boat trailer at monahans
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DZ 02-19-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by iamskippy (Post 1065203)
I disagree DZ, all EP would have to do is set up by the 3rd can and patrol BI, that is the area that really needs to be protected. We pay for.licensing now and i would expect a larger presence with more pressure and published fines. I also think stiffer penalties needs to be enforced, for example when your boat and gear is taken its auctioned off not returned after you pay the fines....

EP needs a larger presence in this state Lord knows i have seen way to many this winter on the ocean front...

Off-topic question, down by Monahan there is a boat.parking only, who do you call when surfers are parked there?
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When the 2 fish bag for the for hire industry was discussed at the RISAA BOD hearing they went over this. If RI for hires get a two fish bag for clients - then any out of state for hire boats can legally keep two fish per client WHILE in RI waters because we have license reciprocity with those other states. We all agree more inforcement is needed but DEM funding is a very low priority. Although a separate issue my suggestion is for RI to drop its reciprocity agreement with other states and charge for a non-resident license to fund more enforcement. RI waters are a commodity - everyone wants to fish here and does - RI should take advantage of its resource. Reciprocity sounded good at first but is a bad deal for RI.

iamskippy 02-19-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DZ (Post 1065214)
When the 2 fish bag for the for hire industry was discussed at the RISAA BOD hearing they went over this. If RI for hires get a two fish bag for clients - then any out of state for hire boats can legally keep two fish per client WHILE in RI waters because we have license reciprocity with those other states. We all agree more inforcement is needed but DEM funding is a very low priority. Although a separate issue my suggestion is for RI to drop its reciprocity agreement with other states and charge for a non-resident license to fund more enforcement. RI waters are a commodity - everyone wants to fish here and does - RI should take advantage of its resource. Reciprocity sounded good at first but is a bad deal for RI.

So again 1 fish bag Limit for charters as well solves the problem. One of the best statements that was made was "your selling the experience not the meat ".

If DEM is underfunded get someone else to run it, just like the Clowns that think its ok to make special rules.

If the RI DEM needs more money, do as i said take the gear and trucks and auction it off problem solved.

These issues are beyond the bag limits but at least its a start. Honestly if things dont change heads At the top should roll.
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MakoMike 02-19-2015 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DZ (Post 1065214)
When the 2 fish bag for the for hire industry was discussed at the RISAA BOD hearing they went over this. If RI for hires get a two fish bag for clients - then any out of state for hire boats can legally keep two fish per client WHILE in RI waters because we have license reciprocity with those other states. We all agree more inforcement is needed but DEM funding is a very low priority. Although a separate issue my suggestion is for RI to drop its reciprocity agreement with other states and charge for a non-resident license to fund more enforcement. RI waters are a commodity - everyone wants to fish here and does - RI should take advantage of its resource. Reciprocity sounded good at first but is a bad deal for RI.

I don't believe that it true for charter/party licenses, though it is true for the recreational fishing licenses. If you are operating a charter/party boat in RI waters you need a RI charter/party license.

RIROCKHOUND 02-19-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 1065222)
I don't believe that it true for charter/party licenses, though it is true for the recreational fishing licenses. If you are operating a charter/party boat in RI waters you need a RI charter/party license.

What about the NY/CT/MA boats bassing at SW or blackfishing in RI wtaers in the fall?

DZ 02-19-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 1065222)
I don't believe that it true for charter/party licenses, though it is true for the recreational fishing licenses. If you are operating a charter/party boat in RI waters you need a RI charter/party license.

I hope you're correct Mike. I'll have to pose the question to DEM.

The Dad Fisherman 02-19-2015 12:01 PM

I thought when the Saltwater fishing license was instituted that a portion of that money was to go to the DEM to help fund them. Might just be a MA thing but I would have thought RI would use the funds for something similar.

thefishingfreak 02-19-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1065239)
I thought when the Saltwater fishing license was instituted that a portion of that money was to go to the DEM to help fund them. Might just be a MA thing but I would have thought RI would use the funds for something similar.

the keyword here is "portion"

I voted but you can only vote on the pc. Mobile platforms no worky I want a recount! where's Al Gore:laughs:

thefishingfreak 02-19-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 1065222)
I don't believe that it true for charter/party licenses, though it is true for the recreational fishing licenses. If you are operating a charter/party boat in RI waters you need a RI charter/party license.

this would never work in a state like NewHampshire with only 13 miles of coastline you would need Maine and Mass licenses also?

MakoMike 02-19-2015 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1065244)
this would never work in a state like NewHampshire with only 13 miles of coastline you would need Maine and Mass licenses also?

Boats from NH would also have to have MA or ME licenses, Just like the guys from Montauk that fish around BI have to get RI licenses.

joebaggs99 02-21-2015 08:04 PM

One fish would be great. How ever for charters, I wouldn't mind 2 fish per paid angler. Leaving Captains and Mate out.

Raider Ronnie 02-22-2015 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1065072)
Haha, why not just say Mike, Mike, Ronnie & Steve take a step to the left :hang:




Thanks for starting my morning off with a good laugh Mike.
Almost spit my coffee on laptop.
Funny chit !


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