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Headhunter 03-16-2015 12:31 PM

Close SW Ledge
 
I think we should make a run at gaining support for closing the ledge for a few seasons. Say June 1 thru august 30? If the for hire segment gets their 2 fish lets at least keep them from taking them off a spot that should have some protection?

big jay 03-16-2015 01:04 PM

You realize posts like this only inspire more people to fish there, right?
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Headhunter 03-16-2015 01:13 PM

Point well taken. Just very aggrivated over the inequality of the pending for hire fleet. Should be 1 @ 28 for everyone and if you done have a line in the water and stick and land the fish you don't get to keep it. Better still it should be 1 @ 28 to 31 and leave all the breeders alone for a couple of seasons.

Headhunter 03-16-2015 01:14 PM

If John wants to take this post down I won't be offended.

thefishingfreak 03-16-2015 01:28 PM

So you're suggesting excluding charter boats from a certain area but not anyone else?
Good luck with that.

Headhunter 03-16-2015 01:31 PM

No I am not suggesting that. Closed to everyone equally as things should be, equal!!

thefishingfreak 03-16-2015 01:33 PM

Like am mpa, horrible idea.
Once an area is closed it will never be opened again, ever.to anything
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Headhunter 03-16-2015 01:44 PM

Good. let the stock buid up there so its is so over populated we fish off the over flow. How much better could it get that that. Every year the fishing just gets better and better all around the island. Perhaps we should look at all the big holding grounds and do the same thing in every state. Lets make it better for our children nor worse or even status quoe.

Headhunter 03-16-2015 01:46 PM

Do whats best for the groupe in turn we do whats best for the individual.........simple logic

thefishingfreak 03-16-2015 02:13 PM

let's just Ban fishing.

buckman 03-16-2015 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headhunter (Post 1067813)
Good. let the stock buid up there so its is so over populated we fish off the over flow. How much better could it get that that. Every year the fishing just gets better and better all around the island. Perhaps we should look at all the big holding grounds and do the same thing in every state. Lets make it better for our children nor worse or even status quoe.

I'm sure I'm stating the obvious here and I apologize if this sounds condescending , but you do realize fish have fins right? They just come to this particular spot to feed at a particular time if conditions are a particular way.
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Headhunter 03-16-2015 03:00 PM

Buckman I don't want to sound condescending or start an argument. You need to do some research on the migratory patterns of stripe bass and then we can continue this discussion.

MakoMike 03-16-2015 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Headhunter (Post 1067820)
Buckman I don't want to sound condescending or start an argument. You need to do some research on the migratory patterns of stripe bass and then we can continue this discussion.

i would suggest that you do the same.

JohnR 03-16-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Headhunter (Post 1067806)
If John wants to take this post down I won't be offended.


Nope - go right ahead, fire away

Nebe 03-16-2015 07:08 PM

No surprise that the 3 charter captians chime in to say you have your head up your arse.

Hmm. Let's see. Bass leaving the Chesapeake head up south side of Long Island... Bass leave Hudson and ct rivers heading along the north side of Long Island.... They both meet at......... SW LEDGE.
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Sea Dangles 03-16-2015 07:27 PM

Wouldn't it be unconstitutional to ban fishing on SW ledge?
The offshore anglers are trying to ban fishing at fishtails!!!
15 years ago there was a movement to ban fishing at Race Point
No scupping at the Old Man
No fluking at Sakonnet
How about we allow them to fish there,just no bait...
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thefishingfreak 03-16-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1067842)
No surprise that the 3 charter captians chime in to say you have your head up your arse.

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Well, this is yet another direct post aimed at the Charter boats

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Originally Posted by Headhunter (Post 1067805)
. Just very aggrivated over the inequality of the pending for hire fleet. .


tlapinski 03-16-2015 07:44 PM

With little to no enforcement of the fishing ban in the EEZ off Block what makes you think there would be better enforcement of a ban on fishing at SW Ledge? If you want to make a difference why not start by garnering better enforcement of all existing rules, regulations and prohibited areas before arbitrarily adding in new off limit zones?

fatcow 03-16-2015 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1067845)
Wouldn't it be unconstitutional to ban fishing on SW ledge?
The offshore anglers are trying to ban fishing at fishtails!!!
15 years ago there was a movement to ban fishing at Race Point
No scupping at the Old Man
No fluking at Sakonnet
How about we allow them to fish there,just no bait...
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Are u out of ur f%$# mind no scupping at the old man. U just hit a touchy subject.

bobber 03-16-2015 09:23 PM

this is obviously a post made out of frustration regarding the (likely) inequities between the rec and comm sectors' impending striped-bass regulations.......

I don't think anyone really expects to close Southwest to fishing. but I get the sentiment

thefishingfreak 03-16-2015 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobber (Post 1067859)
this is obviously a post made out of frustration regarding the (likely) inequities between the rec and comm sectors' impending striped-bass regulations.......

I don't think anyone really expects to close Southwest to fishing. but I get the sentiment

charter boats are recs
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piemma 03-17-2015 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1067862)
charter boats are recs
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Mike, not trying to start a flame war but if charter boats are recs then they should be happy to abide by 1 fish per person per day and not fight to get 2 fish a day for themselves.

l.i.fish.in.vt 03-17-2015 06:15 AM

if you close one area where the large bass stage for part of the season why not close all of them?basically you would have to close a rather large large portion of the east coast from the carolinas to maine. every few years these areas change

JohnR 03-17-2015 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlapinski (Post 1067850)
With little to no enforcement of the fishing ban in the EEZ off Block what makes you think there would be better enforcement of a ban on fishing at SW Ledge?

Ding, ding, Ding

thefishingfreak 03-17-2015 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1067865)
Mike, not trying to start a flame war but if charter boats are recs then they should be happy to abide by 1 fish per person per day and not fight to get 2 fish a day for themselves.

That was a direct answer to this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobber (Post 1067859)
this is obviously a post made out of frustration regarding the (likely) inequities between the rec and comm sectors'


why don't we close the breachways? or better yet THE CANAL!

big jay 03-17-2015 06:52 AM

Some enterprising individual started a FB page last season to close the canal to fishing...
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MAKAI 03-17-2015 07:07 AM

I can actually see a slight chance of that happening. The way some fishermen abuse and trash the place. Nothing like the smell of rotting fish around your house from dbs throwing racks in the bushes.
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buckman 03-17-2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1067842)
No surprise that the 3 charter captians chime in to say you have your head up your arse.

Hmm. Let's see. Bass leaving the Chesapeake head up south side of Long Island... Bass leave Hudson and ct rivers heading along the north side of Long Island.... They both meet at......... SW LEDGE.
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I almost donated to your art project ( a fantastic idea BTW) but money will be a little tight this year 😊
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joebaggs99 03-17-2015 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1067871)
That was a direct answer to this.
Lol. Let's not get carried away. :). Us shore guys walk miles to find fishing areas. Please don't suggest taking away more ground. Plus I'll have no need to sell 3-4-5 ounce jigs if the canal closes. Tight lines and lets play nice and fish with a smile.



why don't we close the breachways? or better yet THE CANAL!

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ronfish 03-17-2015 08:26 AM

Since quite a few people think closing areas is a good thing then why didn't we push for a moratorium on the stripers. This would stand a better chance of being adjusted in the future whereas once an area is closed for whatever reason it generally remains closed because you now get other groups involved, ie. PITA.
I would rather see a coast wide moratorium to help rebuild the stock. It meets the prerequisite of being simple to enforce and an be applied coast wide.
Ron


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