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Got Stripers 06-27-2016 03:44 PM

Gypsy Moth Caterpillars
 
The forests around my area in Plymouth look like they would in November, they have desimated this area. There will be a lot of dead trees when this year is done, I can't see how they will survive without a leaf left on them.

piemma 06-27-2016 04:19 PM

In spite of what Spence and his arborist said, here's the scoop:

Rhode Island has been hit hard by large caterpillar concentrations this year, especially in South and Kent Counties. In North Kingstown and South Kingstown, on a ride to the beach, the sides of Route 1 look as if the trees have just begun to bud. Residents across the state have watched their yards become skeletal and endured the rain of caterpillar poop falling from above for weeks.

The good news? The worst is likely over. The state Department of Environmental Management has been monitoring the caterpillar infestation and said in early June that many trees that have been defoliated should start to re-foliate by the end of July "with the proper care."

Cool Beans 06-27-2016 04:21 PM

I am starting to see a few patches of new leaf growth on some of my oak trees. They were down to zero leaves, but in the past 2 days I am seeing spots of green way up there. Hopefully they pull through this. pretty concerned they may not make it....

redlite 06-27-2016 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1103118)
In spite of what Spence and his arborist said, here's the scoop:

Rhode Island has been hit hard by large caterpillar concentrations this year, especially in South and Kent Counties. In North Kingstown and South Kingstown, on a ride to the beach, the sides of Route 1 look as if the trees have just begun to bud. Residents across the state have watched their yards become skeletal and endured the rain of caterpillar poop falling from above for weeks.

The good news? The worst is likely over. The state Department of Environmental Management has been monitoring the caterpillar infestation and said in early June that many trees that have been defoliated should start to re-foliate by the end of July "with the proper care."

And so what happens when/ if they all re-bloom???? Wont they just get chewed bare again?
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spence 06-27-2016 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1103118)
In spite of what Spence and his arborist said, here's the scoop:

I think we're talking different kinds of damage.

nightfighter 06-27-2016 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1103125)
I think we're talking different kinds of damage.

How so???? May I use your statements from the other thread;

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1102676)
I don't think they will, once the leaves are set it's done.

Japanese beetles do a number on my cherry every other year. Only thing you can really do is spray.
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1102812)
Not what the arborist said but could also be dependent on species.


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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1102895)
Yea, what would an expert arborist know about specific pests and species of trees???:rtfm:


For what it's worth, I can always respect a man who is willing to accept when he is wrong. Or say they are sorry. I know. I have a brother who can do neither.....

nightfighter 06-27-2016 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by redlite (Post 1103124)
And so what happens when/ if they all re-bloom???? Wont they just get chewed bare again?
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No Not this year. The pupae or caterpillar stage is over for these beasts.

spence 06-27-2016 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1103128)
For what it's worth, I can always respect a man who is willing to accept when he is wrong. Or say they are sorry. I know. I have a brother who can do neither.....

God you're on edge. Do you need help? Are you ok?

nightfighter 06-27-2016 06:41 PM

I am good. Thanks for asking.

That is a direct answer to your question. I pose a question to you, all I get is a deflection. Hell, I will withdraw the last commentary in the post.... So how about a direct answer to how this thread is a different type of damage????? I cant follow where you could be possibly going with that, even after reading both threads again.....

Liv2Fish 06-27-2016 07:17 PM

Drive rt 3 from exit 2 to 5. See all the dead trees with no bark? Those are from the same thing s couple of years back. Trees don't seem to survive a TOTAL defoliation. I lost a large oak same way. Fire wood.
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ProfessorM 06-27-2016 07:37 PM

A year here and there they can survive. Consecutive years, 3 maybe, and dry conditions can and will kill them
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WESTPORTMAFIA 06-27-2016 10:46 PM

Complete defoliation for 3 plus consecutive years on old trees because of them. Complete to the point where they turn to my pines and make them bare. Keep in mind there are other fungus and insect problems and so on that can play in to the tree dying. Most go un noticed or put off. But the #^&#^&#^&#^&pillers eating the leaves bare isn't alone gonna kill a big tree.
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Rockfish9 06-28-2016 06:10 AM

Recovery will be harder this year due to the drought conditions...

My area hasn't seen any damage...but 10 miles north of me looks like a war zone.... I remember the damage back in the 80's I lost several fruit trees...

Sea Dangles 06-28-2016 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1103131)
God you're on edge. Do you need help? Are you ok?

Jeff,why not answer the question or at least admit you were mistaken? I hope you are a Hillary supporter because you each know how to dodge the truth. I guess your best defense is a good offense.
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Nebe 06-28-2016 07:17 AM

Spence, have the gypsey moths eaten that giant French flag that you have flying high and proud ? :hihi:
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spence 06-28-2016 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1103132)
I am good. Thanks for asking.

That is a direct answer to your question. I pose a question to you, all I get is a deflection. Hell, I will withdraw the last commentary in the post.... So how about a direct answer to how this thread is a different type of damage????? I cant follow where you could be possibly going with that, even after reading both threads again.....

Simple, partial defoliation versus total defoliation. Has a huge impact on re-foliation. It's worm poop, relax.

Sea Dangles 06-28-2016 08:35 AM

Nice try but still the wrong answer. You have my pity.

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spence 06-28-2016 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1103168)
Nice try but still the wrong answer. You have my pity.

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The answer is correct, the question is wrong.

Sea Dangles 06-28-2016 09:04 AM

Misinformed?
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spence 06-28-2016 09:48 AM

Regardless my cherry still has a lot of holes in the foliage and they ain't growing back...never have.

Sea Dangles 06-28-2016 03:25 PM

There is no need to,it has not been stripped of foliage.
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spence 06-28-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1103202)
There is no need to,it has not been stripped of foliage.
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Pretty well damaged, like I said, regrowth is dependent on damage. My damage is different.

Cool Beans 06-28-2016 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1103206)
My damage is different.

That is an understatement

Nebe 06-28-2016 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool Beans (Post 1103208)
That is an understatement

:rotfl:
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stripermaineiac 06-28-2016 05:36 PM

Is there anything that doesn.t turn into an arguement anymore. So much for helpfull info.

spence 06-28-2016 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stripermaineiac (Post 1103210)
Is there anything that doesn.t turn into an arguement anymore. So much for helpfull info.

Talk to Dingles, he started it.

MakoMike 06-29-2016 09:53 AM

It happened to us several year in a row back in the 70s. July looked like Feb. I recall them saying at the time that the trees could withstand it for one year, but we wound up having it 3 years in a row, until there were enough wasps to do the job. Lots of trees died. You can spray to kill the caterpillars.

piemma 06-29-2016 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 1103249)
It happened to us several year in a row back in the 70s. July looked like Feb. I recall them saying at the time that the trees could withstand it for one year, but we wound up having it 3 years in a row, until there were enough wasps to do the job. Lots of trees died. You can spray to kill the caterpillars.

Yes Mike, you can indeed spray to kill them. The problem is the only pesticide that kills Gypsy Moths also kills Honey Bees and Lady Bugs.

Cool Beans 06-29-2016 12:35 PM

Update on my oak trees, they were completely stripped of leaves, but today I am seeing widespread regrowth on almost all of my trees. I think if they are completely defoliated, they will regrow leaves if they have a certain percentage left, they will try to survive with what little is left, without the regrowth

stripermaineiac 06-29-2016 03:17 PM

What's the best preventative for the damn things


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