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Slipknot 10-14-2016 02:25 PM

seals out of control
 
good video

https://vimeo.com/177113763


The Seal Abatement Coalition in Nantucket made a video documenting the recovery of the grey seal. This video primarily concentrates on Tuckernuck Island and Great Point on Nantucket. The video was brought to my attention by Peter Crowe, a member of the Nantucket Anglers Club.

bloocrab 10-14-2016 03:37 PM

"When does success... become excess?"

Very good question.



If the solution isn't to kill them, and relocating them would prove to be an expense that no one would want to take on.....then what really, is the solution to this ever growing problem?

redlite 10-14-2016 04:11 PM

They r now destroyin fishin around gooseberry and westport. Dreaded it but there is no gettin away from them
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bobber 10-14-2016 04:36 PM

they even showed up on occasion in Long Island Sound this summer... they are always a few around in winter.... but summer is something new

Nebe 10-14-2016 04:51 PM

Seals are already camped out at rose island in Narragansett bay.
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ProfessorM 10-14-2016 06:14 PM

Seen 4 in the last week or so in the canal.

JLH 10-14-2016 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobber (Post 1110492)
they even showed up on occasion in Long Island Sound this summer... they are always a few around in winter.... but summer is something new

Last fall I got "sealed" twice in LIS with a seal taking a bass I had hooked. Heard of it happening to a few other anglers already this year. They have been in a few spots alll summer.

I also saw them in Fishers Island sound on several occasions in the summer over the last couple of years.
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OLD GOAT 10-15-2016 09:03 AM

check out plane films of Monomy showing a black(from seals)shoreline.
estimate 16,000 seals

Guppy 10-15-2016 02:12 PM

Probably as little as a hundred years ago people (fishing public) would have noticed the problem and just fixed it
Ca chang,, bam
Reload
Ca Chang,, bam
And so on

MakoMike 10-16-2016 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guppy (Post 1110527)
Probably as little as a hundred years ago people (fishing public) would have noticed the problem and just fixed it
Ca chang,, bam
Reload
Ca Chang,, bam
And so on

100 years ago the state of MA paid a bounty on seal noses.

FishermanTim 10-16-2016 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLH (Post 1110500)
Last fall I got "sealed" twice in LIS with a seal taking a bass I had hooked. Heard of it happening to a few other anglers already this year. They have been in a few spots alll summer.

I also saw them in Fishers Island sound on several occasions in the summer over the last couple of years.
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Here's something to consider...

Animals are adaptive, changing their habits to met the changing environment around them. With the population growing year after year with no solution in sight, you can bet your paycheck that these "isolated" events are going to become commonplace. The seals will automatically make the connection between boats and free food!

Wonder if the seals have been causing problem with any netters, in their effort to get fish???

piemma 10-16-2016 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 1110551)
100 years ago the state of MA paid a bounty on seal noses.

I believe it was $5.00 per nose.

Guppy 10-16-2016 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1110558)
I believe it was $5.00 per nose.

I'm in

In The Surf 10-16-2016 05:29 PM

With in a decade we will have GW activity that will rival that of Seal Island in SA. With that will come a loss to resort and tourism income generated by the vacationing beach goers along with possible tragedy generated by the seals and GW's. After years of this income loss and a population that no longer shows up on the cape to vacation, a bounty won't be a request but quite possibly a necessity.
It's only a matter of time.
That being said, I wasn't pleased to read read about seals being transferred around and reintroduced to locations in Ri.

Clammer 10-16-2016 07:37 PM

I won,t be around by then but its going to be a fuster cuck :agree::wid:

Slipknot 10-17-2016 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 1110551)
100 years ago the state of MA paid a bounty on seal noses.


I thought it was closer to 50 years ago not 100

Raven 10-17-2016 08:47 AM

i'll keep sayin it
bacteria levels
on public beaches
should indicate
true contamination

OLD GOAT 10-17-2016 10:16 AM

I Think they stopped the bounty about 1968--72.

paradoxjim 10-17-2016 01:42 PM

Their pelts must have some value to someone. Sealskin shoes and jackets?

MAKAI 10-17-2016 02:14 PM

Could tour busses full of Inuits come down to hunt them ?
Beats kayaking around the ice to get them up north.
I'd lend them my yak.
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jeffsod 10-21-2016 05:51 AM

Quote:

Wonder if the seals have been causing problem with any netters, in their effort to get fish???
The weir fisherman in Nantucket sound have been having huge problems. The one guy left that ran out of herring river retired as a result and sold his shanty in herring river.

Guppy 10-21-2016 07:02 AM

I worked on the house next to the one with the wind mill on it across from the shanty early seventies
The trap boats would come in with 3 - 4 guys standing in fish neArly up to the gunwalls... And get vacuumed out

It's been a year or two since I've been down that way in the spring and seen only one trap...

A lost art I suspect

hq2 10-21-2016 07:03 AM

Well, the obvious issue also is; what are seals' predators? Great
white sharks - the big ones! That means over time, more of them
are going to show up where the seals are, which also happens to
be near where people are at Chatham (they've already shown up
there) and Horseneck beach. I think if something happens there (which eventually it probably will) you will see people be a lot more interested in doing something about the seals.

clambo 10-21-2016 03:09 PM

seals
 
way I see it there is an easy solution as follows.Have Inuits teach us how to prepare them. A controlled cull of stocks yearly. Cook them at soup kitchens. feed the hungry. WIN WIN

ps if they suck need a new plan.

Moses 10-22-2016 07:45 AM

A program like this would help keep a better balance - http://www.wideopenspaces.com/endang...mpaign=buffer+
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ecduzitgood 10-25-2016 07:22 AM

Why is it always portrayed that everything needs to be protected?

Imagine if the dinosaurs still existed or enormous insects which have gone extinct.

Check this out....

http://listverse.com/2013/01/14/10-p...y-mess-you-up/
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