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JohnR 08-07-2017 09:31 AM

NORKS rev2
 
Kim is prepping for another launch of ICBM which has an estimated range to hit US from Houston to DC and north. Plus another SLBM (really not a threat as his sub would not make it in range but offers limited second strike against Souel, Tokyo).

Many smart people are believing he has most if not all the ducks lined up to make a complete start to finish nuke attack via ICBM (hey if he launches 5 and 2 work start to finish it is a success). So he is within reach of a viable Nuke attack on the US soil.

In our defense, we have the GBI system in Alaska that may or may not be able to intercept a NORK ICBM. The system is over 50% reliable, more so lately, but some could get through (assuming a launch of 20 ICBM)

And for the moment ignore EMP (and before y'all think I am nuts, there are several Guvmint working groups on this google: High Impact Threats to Critical Infrastructure ) though that would have disastrous consequences.

So Kim has announced for countries not to worry about his nuke program as it is only for use against the US. Might be bluff , or not.

What does the US do?

detbuch 08-07-2017 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1125966)
Kim is prepping for another launch of ICBM which has an estimated range to hit US from Houston to DC and north. Plus another SLBM (really not a threat as his sub would not make it in range but offers limited second strike against Souel, Tokyo).

Many smart people are believing he has most if not all the ducks lined up to make a complete start to finish nuke attack via ICBM (hey if he launches 5 and 2 work start to finish it is a success). So he is within reach of a viable Nuke attack on the US soil.

In our defense, we have the GBI system in Alaska that may or may not be able to intercept a NORK ICBM. The system is over 50% reliable, more so lately, but some could get through (assuming a launch of 20 ICBM)

And for the moment ignore EMP (and before y'all think I am nuts, there are several Guvmint working groups on this google: High Impact Threats to Critical Infrastructure ) though that would have disastrous consequences.

So Kim has announced for countries not to worry about his nuke program as it is only for use against the US. Might be bluff , or not.

What does the US do?

I am assuming that his only goal is to stay in power. I may be wrong, but I don't think he actually wants to do what is best for the North Korean people. He has seen what the West, including the US, did to Gaddafi when he gave up his nuclear program and tried to make nice.

So their is no way that he gives up his nukes or stops trying to make them more effective. If his objective is merely to stay in power, then he probably won't start a holocaust which will surely destroy him.

If, on the other hand, he truly has an ideological mission to destroy Western style democracies, then be prepared for war. One that will, perhaps finally, settle the issue worldwide. If that is the case, this is no time to be militarily weak, or to be anything but stronger than our adversaries.

Bribing him would only lead to us being the victim of worldwide bribery. Instigating a coup, if that is possible, would be best.

Maybe offer him the use of various tech and manufacturing companies to organize some kind of capitalist economy giving him the means to be a trading partner with the rest of the world? But we already suffer from "shipping jobs overseas."

Oh well . . .

wdmso 08-07-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1125969)
I am assuming that his only goal is to stay in power. I may be wrong, but I don't think he actually wants to do what is best for the North Korean people. He has seen what the West, including the US, did to Gaddafi when he gave up his nuclear program and tried to make nice.


Oh well . . .

I agree 100% the same goes for Iran they want them as a deterrent .. his only chip on the table ..as an offensive weapon they are useless in both cases the retaliation would be nothing short of complete annihilation via tac nukes and conventional weapons from the US

JohnR 08-07-2017 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1125971)
I agree 100% the same goes for Iran they want them as a deterrent .. his only chip on the table ..as an offensive weapon they are useless in both cases the retaliation would be nothing short of complete annihilation via tac nukes and conventional weapons from the US


Depends - how many millions is it worth to gamble that?

JohnR 08-08-2017 12:32 PM

Well this escalated quickly:

North Korea has new miniature nuclear weapons, U.S. officials say

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/345...-officials-say

detbuch 08-08-2017 05:52 PM

Does the possibility that Kim will sell nukes to terrorists groups even more of a threat than North Korea simply having them?

JohnR 08-08-2017 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1126016)
Does the possibility that Kim will sell nukes to terrorists groups even more of a threat than North Korea simply having them?

Nahh - he'd sell them to Iran to sell to terrorists.


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