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ct_fisher 08-23-2017 08:24 AM

Knot wars Albright or alberto
 
Ok folks

Which knot are people using for braid to fluoro

Albright or modified Albright (Alberto)

Thanks

Rob

piemma 08-23-2017 08:27 AM

Albright as I can even tie it in the dark on a bouncing boat!:spin:

Nebe 08-23-2017 08:40 AM

Alberto has never let me down. (Just tied one 30 seconds ago)
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JFigliuolo 08-23-2017 10:20 AM

neither... double uni. never pulled one. ever...

Sea Dangles 08-23-2017 11:18 AM

Red Philips or uni to uni
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numbskull 08-23-2017 01:25 PM

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FG Knot
Way better than all of the above (stronger and much smaller profile) when you can tie it in controlled circumstances.

It takes longer to tie, and it helps to have a tool (although there are ways around this) so it is more of a pain in the azz but the results are definitely worth it and I think few people who have used it ever go back to something cruder.

Search for Knot assist 2.0 There is a youtube video as well.

JFigliuolo 08-23-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 1126832)
FG Knot
Way better than all of the above (stronger and much smaller profile) when you can tie it in controlled circumstances.

It takes longer to tie, and it helps to have a tool (although there are ways around this) so it is more of a pain in the azz but the results are definitely worth it and I think few people who have used it ever go back to something cruder.

Search for Knot assist 2.0 There is a youtube video as well.

I've used it... and while it's nice, when fshing rocks where you might retie more than a few times, it's impractical (IMO)

Sea Dangles 08-23-2017 09:05 PM

I am shocked George doesn't tie the PR
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chefchris401 08-23-2017 09:24 PM

Check this out, interesting think this was in sport fishing mag or something, buddy posted it last week.

chefchris401 08-23-2017 09:25 PM

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/...pszbek4ac2.jpg
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GattaFish 08-24-2017 07:01 AM

I def have a new found respect for the FG since I took a 60+ lb yellowfin on 30# leader to an FG but it's really how well the knot is tied which gives you variations in strength. I have whipped up an FG on the boat quick to change leaders and pitch bait to sharks. No problem getting 100# + sharks in on them either. If the knot is pulled tight correctly it is rock solid.

The Alberto has flaws. I have a modified version that goes through the guides better. But still suffers from weakening the more it's fished.

I have also been experimenting with another knot that shows promise.

I have the PR knots on my deep drop reels. 200# plus sword and no issues.

Best thing to do is find a knot you can tie quickly and with confidence in the setting you will be using it.

I've been lazy out on a rock and spun up a sugeons loop to an Aussie quickie for fun and had zero issues.
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bassballer 08-24-2017 07:29 AM

Im a uni to everything guy

scottw 08-24-2017 01:53 PM

uni-uni....then uni to the clip or direct...simple...tie it with your eyes closed

I am using the fg more.....especially with fine braid......allows a long leader which gives you something to grab when landing a fish that won't slice through your fingers...fish a heavier leader above...uni-uni to a lighter leader depending on what you need...casts right through the guides

bobber 08-24-2017 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bassballer (Post 1126885)
Im a uni to everything guy

what he said- simple and strong can do it in the dark

SilverKing 08-26-2017 11:06 AM

double-uni strong and easy just takes a minute

ProfessorM 08-26-2017 11:47 AM

I just use the uni to uni knot and I double up the braid. Simple. I have seen George tie that knot and I still have no clue. If possible I just have him do it for me.
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Dave Peros 08-27-2017 11:09 AM

I think the key to any knot is how carefully it is tied. Any knot where the twists are drawn down and one jumps and crosses the other is doomed to failure. I saw a video from the owner of a fly shop in Key West who makes a point of teasing, say, a lock on an Albright or Bimini as he's drawing it down to make sure this doesn't happen.
In the end there are the absolute best knots such as the PR or FG for use when casting from a boat or setting up rods in a controlled environment, but then there are the best knots from a practical standpoint such as a Uni to Uni when it's raining and blowing and you're standing on a rock or getting hammered by waves on a sand beach.

fish raptor 08-30-2017 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 1126832)
FG Knot
Way better than all of the above (stronger and much smaller profile) when you can tie it in controlled circumstances.

It takes longer to tie, and it helps to have a tool (although there are ways around this) so it is more of a pain in the azz but the results are definitely worth it and I think few people who have used it ever go back to something cruder.

Search for Knot assist 2.0 There is a youtube video as well.


Once you master the FG you will never go back, especially if you doing a lot of casting and the knot needs to travel through the guides.
For trolling where the knot basically never needs to go through the guides I use the modified Albright as it is much easier to tie.

I am proud to say I have yet to have an FG fail on me. I pretty much retie on every outing just for peace of mind plus it keeps me in good practice.

I thought it was interesting to see that if you go on youtube you can prolly find 30 different ways to tie the same FG knot..... just have to find the "technique" that works for you.


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