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Fergal 11-04-2017 08:13 AM

This winters builds
I have 2 cts blanks on order, 11’ VT 3-6 & 4-8. I’m already thinking about guide layouts for those. I might try the RVs.

2 cts flyrods 9 & 10wts will be some.

And finally, a few conventional boat rods that have been half done for 2 years. Maybe I will get to finish them this year.

chefchris401 11-04-2017 10:09 AM

I loved my cts vt 4-8, rod threw loaded redfins to 6oz and whole 18” eel while shark fishing.

Heard the 3-6 is a great rod as well, couple buddies have it and love it
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pbadad 11-04-2017 08:06 PM

Those RV guides worked well on a couple 9 & 10' rods with VS & VR150. See no reason with the 25 pushed out 34-36" a 2.5 - 2.75" spool wouldn't work. I have a CTS 903-1 to build and. 10' 1003-1. Not for me but a friend. I think he's using ZB22.
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chefchris401 11-04-2017 10:48 PM

Only have a few rods planned

Lami honey 136, cut to 10’6” going to build it for a drilled out custom penn I scored, will be a nice beach/back bay pencil rod/metal lip/soft plastics

Looking at the ODM nex1 11’ 2-6 as a possible build for the surf

Need to build some designated canal rods, century 1329 and ODM jigster
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pbadad 11-05-2017 01:14 AM

I have an old 40+ 1363m cut to 10'6". Was my first rod wrap redo. It's a beast. Use it now very sparingly for chunking. No reel seat and 6 guide cone of flight. Started out as my plugging but no longer as these arms age.
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Fergal 11-05-2017 06:59 AM

I have the odm nex1 3/4-4 and it is a very nice rod.

The rod that I’ve been using most of the fall was a ~11’6” 2-4 VT. It was formerly 12’ that I absolutely hated. Way too light at the tip. I ended up taking about 6” off the tip and luckily that worked.
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pbadad 11-05-2017 08:05 AM

Drew what size tip tube did u end up using after the cut? I cut back a members 4-8 which snapped the tip off. Once I got back to a non shredded spot then proportioned the second guide distance , I ended up using a #9 tube tip. I feels beefier but not like a telephone pole. I feel this may be an improvement over the stock dimention , especially with heavier loads. The length decreased by approximately 5".

Fergal 11-05-2017 08:11 AM

I think it was a 7 to start and then an 8 after trimming.
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Fergal 11-23-2017 10:43 AM

i just oredered the components for this. both blanks will have rv set-ups (rv25-16) then kw10-kw/kt8 for runners. the 3-6 will have the kt, the 4-8 the kw.

pbadad 11-23-2017 03:19 PM

Interested how the big spools cast thru the 25. I have an extra kw10m for the third reduction guide.
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Fergal 11-23-2017 05:17 PM

the 10 above is actually a 'm'.

the one that i did for a vs200 last year is fine, that was 25-12-8m-8 runners.

some of the guides are on backorder. i'm hoping that the blanks ship before the holidays so i can start right after teh new year.

ps - when i was thinking about using the the kl's on the build i did last year the ring size was a concern. deep down i still think about the old cof rods, ~5 guides - 40-30-25-20-16-tip... going with the smaller guides does still seem foreign to me. a few things were 'comforting' tho. if i were using kw's i'd be starting with a 30, the kl/rv 25 is only 3.7mm shorter in overall height but the bottom of the ring is slightly higher with the kl/rv vs the kw. so, the ring size is small and the guide slightly shorter but it does keep the line a bit more off the blank.

i will play around with the builds but i think in the end casting will be at best equal and maybe better than the kw.

but it still doesn't seem right to me. old habits die hard.

Fergal 12-11-2017 07:52 AM

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some of the components are here, still waiting on the blanks. if the blanks don't ship in ~the next week it will be after the holidays.

pbadad 12-11-2017 09:27 PM

Should be a sweet build. I did a FiberStar for Rob with the titanium RV 's.
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tlapinski 12-12-2017 08:24 AM

I have 2, maybe 3 builds that I would like to get to this year. I have a CTS VT 4-8 blank that JLH wants as a back-up. For myself I am still considering an ODM Jigster for big stuff. I fished a factory build a few times this fall and liked the range it could throw but was not very happy with the build itself so I am hoping that building it "my way" will fix my concerns. Also been wanting to build a Lami BT 108 3M for several years but haven't been able to find one to actually put in my hands to verify that it is in fact what I want.

pbadad 12-17-2017 08:34 AM

Toby, is the VT old 1 piece or the spigot style ?

Fergal 12-17-2017 02:53 PM

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got all the guides for the 4-8 (pics below). the remaining guides for the 3-6 have shipped. now all i need are the blanks... i'm guessing it will be january at this point since cts is supposed to close for the holidays.

tlapinski 12-18-2017 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by pbadad (Post 1133606)
Toby, is the VT old 1 piece or the spigot style ?

The 1-piece blank.

pbadad 12-18-2017 06:25 PM

1 piece. Nice. I sold my last one. Have a spigot here. I'll install spigot inside reel seat dimensions. It s the first design split at 24". Now CTS ships no lengths over 3 meters and places spigot @28". For the most parts, that should work for majority of people . Should place reel stem in the 26"range.
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Fergal 12-18-2017 07:17 PM

Should have picked one (more) of the 1pc blanks along the wAy.
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pbadad 12-18-2017 07:35 PM

Drew, all ti frames?

Fergal 12-19-2017 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by pbadad (Post 1133707)
Drew, all ti frames?


pbadad 12-19-2017 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Fergal (Post 1133721)

That is going to feel light air. If it was a 2 piece VT,, the tip section would weigh under 3oz. Using a 200 for reel?

Fergal 12-19-2017 11:26 AM

i'm going to try a few different reels on the 3-6: vs200, saltiga 4500 & 5500. i'm hoping to find a compromise that will work with all three reels.

Fergal 12-25-2017 09:53 AM

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from last year, for wt comparison - kw30-25-20-12-8*4-tip, torzite.

pbadad 12-25-2017 05:46 PM

Amazing 23 gr difference. 3/4 oz.
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Fergal 12-28-2017 07:24 AM

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The handle on the 10wt is done. I'm going to do the 9wt handle next, then wrap. The cork work makes too much of a mess to have to clean up twice.

pbadad 12-28-2017 05:38 PM

Very nice contours. I also have to make a blind to keep dust going into vac.
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Fergal 12-28-2017 06:18 PM

I should probably do that. It makes a hell of a mess without own.

A hell of a mess...
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Fergal 01-02-2018 09:46 PM

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the handle for the 9wt is glued up. the butt and reelseat went on tonight. slowly making progress.

Fergal 01-06-2018 04:32 PM

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Still need to do a little more work but they're good enough for now.

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