New Mexico
 

So the FBI finally raided the compound where some charming folks were training the youth to shoot up schools. What a world class country we have become.

Very disturbing report.
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Religion of peace
and they want open borders
sounds deplorable

http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Chi...490352381.html

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/08...ments-say.html

Sounds just like the guy went nuts.
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Adopting extremist views and committing horrendous acts of violence in the name of some "righteous" cause, be it religion or politics or just plain old hatred, isn't something that only Muslims, or Arabs, or immigrants, or any other group of people do. It's something humans do.
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/10/2/...errorism-islam
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"open your handbooks...turn to page 246....and repeat after me"

Flag.

Loss of Credibility using VOX as source. Loss of 10 yards, repeat first down. ; )

Sorry - Vox does not rate any real credibility and your using them as a source actually undermines your other efforts against other news sources .

Remember, Vox skews hard to make their points, like starting comparison counts on September 12th, 2001, or framing time from when Trump took office - rather than broader definitions of time that are less likely to adhere to narrative.

You are correct that many groups do it - of different ideologies, none are acceptable, so call them all out. Many of these are "lost boys" that have a problem, and the ideology is just the excuse, the vehicle to attach the hate.

This particular one is very heinous.

Vox skews things and so does Fox with this headline
Man arrested at 'extremist Muslim' New Mexico compound
I would think most of us are capable of reading between the lines and assuming the skew based on the source. That writing much like “10% more of a group like someone” puts the spin they want to the subject.

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I went to faux to see how the l they approached it and this was top of that nonsense site:
"Mark Levin: Mueller a 'Greater Threat' to United States Than Putin"

Sure comrade...
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I liked the -- millennial's would rather date MS-13 members than trump supporters -- story :jester:

As Jim says though, they're the best in the business.

pretty sure China is a bigger threat than Putin.

Nobody in this thread said that it is not Pete

Do you think the only media channel that does not favor the left should not skew things to their choice? I'm sure you are not surprised.


The point of the story is there is plenty of evil right here in our country, isn't it past time to weed it out?

Bigger but very different.

bigger and much more threatening

Yes and no. China is playing the long game but we have a lot of influence if we play our cards right.

Didnt your man crush mock Mitt Romney not that long ago, for suggesting Russia was a threat? What say you?

The 6:00 show on Fox, Brett Baier, is the best in the business. I never said a syllable about Mark Levin. How about you criticize me for what I actually say, is that asking so much?

What freedoms are you willing to give up to be totally safe?
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This won’t get a response
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Russia plays checkers and China is playing chess.
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[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1148643]Didnt your man crush mock Mitt Romney not that long ago, for suggesting Russia was a threat? What say you?

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Again, you put out misinformation. It was specifically about Russia being the "greatest geopolitical threat" not just "a threat." Big difference between a threat and the greatest threat. Romney was correct that Russia was a concern, but wrong that they were the greatest threat. Obama was smart to use it against him. Romney wasn't as big a fool as he walked made to look, but that is how campaigns go.
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Plastic Straws
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Either I took Obama's comment out of context, or I'm too stupid to see how brilliant it was for Obama to pretend to claim Putin was an ally, so Obama could secretly be spying on Putin, because he brilliantly lulled Putin into a false sense of security.

"Obama really got that one wrong, Romney was right, Obama just blew it" - what Spence will never say, ever. He can't.

[QUOTE=zimmy;1148649]The left doesn't think Russia is among the biggest threats right now? Watch any cable news show in prime time, and tel me what foreign nation gets more negative coverage.

The greatest threat at the moment from Russia is that whatever they have on Trump causes him to put Putin ahead of allies and u.s. intelligence. Trump in cahoots with Russia is a great threat, yes, but only The Simpsons could have predicted before 2016 that the traffic cone would become president. Romney wasn't that prescient.
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There you go again... making stuff up. He never claimed Putin was an ally. Do you intentionally do that? It happens all the time.
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Tom Brady campaigns against the use of plastic straws | Fox News

http://video.foxnews.com/v/579841925...#sp=show-clips
🤘
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Well if that doesn't make me change my mind :rolleyes:
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None
For several reasons, the biggest being in my opinion being totally safe is in the dream world of liberals seeking utopia, it is a fantasy. I can’t see us being totally safe from our own government or law enforcement, anyone with common sense can see that just pay attention.
Being safe begins with personal responsibility not relying on your government( ruling class) to take care of you.
We already give up enough at certain places like airports, stadiums etc. but we put up with those as inconveniences and it helps.

The liberal judges who release violent criminals like a revolving door should be held accountable when those decisions result directly in innocent people and law enforcement being murdered or injured just like they expect a bartender to somehow magically to know a customers tolerance of alcohol and hold them responsible in lawsuits where drunk driving happens. I’d like to hear what the people who put them on the bench have to say about that.

Seeing how you asked, how about you answer
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Both will work together to undermine the US. If there are three world players that would be the US, China, Russia - which of the three is the least problem?

You can add a 4th with the EU but they are not as important nor effective as their potential would make them.

No, both play chess. We play checkers and have some for a while now - probably since after Bush the elder.

So - what is the Greatest Threat, then?

:rotf2:

Yep - 'cause the problem just materialized overnight.

wouldn't the Chinese be playing "Chinese Checkers"?