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Can somebody please explain what it takes to become a democratic leader? The state of Virginia is under siege due to their elected officials using poor judgment. The person they choose to respond to the state of the union address s almost as upside down as Al Sharpton. Is her debt going to get a similar pardon? It is entertaining and embarrassing at the same time. What a party of deception they have become.

i think to be a democratic leader, you have to be unwilling to celebrate economic growth, military heroes, law
enforcement heroes, and freedom. but you must be then willing to jump up and down, and high five everyone around you, to celebrate yourself. oh, and for sure you have to believe that an unborn child
is no more meaningful
than a mole to be removed. and apparently it helps if you like to dress as blackface.
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I find the whole Virginia issue a distraction from real issues, perhaps the media finds it exciting, but why is it national news. Perhaps they could look at the number of republican legislators convicted vs democrats, but that means little also.

I don't think Stacey Abrams is in that bad a place.
Perhaps she should have refused to release her tax returns.
She has Debt, how unusual for an American. She may have made some bad financial choices in her life, but I don't think she is or has been bankrupt.
Do you have to claim to be a billionaire to run for office?
She has a net worth of 510K and debt of 220K, a good income potential and she is 46.
She helped her parents after Katrina, isn't that what conservatives say people should do, help each other and not depend on the government?
Lots of Americans are in worse shape.

pete, how convenient you find the VA “issue”, where all the top democrats are up to their eyeballs in scandal, to be a mere distraction.

i really wish we could
just come up with a set of rules for what’s acceptable and what’s not, and apply them equally to both parties. how f*cked up are we, that we cant come close to doing that? Neither side can come
close to being fair. Let’s flush the toilet, and elect rational
people who though they may disagree, can do so fairly and honestly.

i could care less if
someone put black makeup on in 1985. as for accusations of sexual
assault, give them
a hearing where they are innocent until proven guilty.
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I pay no attention to Virginia politics, why should I?
What difference will politics there make in your life that you are so concerned about it.
Perhaps more concerning is that since 1969 Republican administrations have had 121 indictments and 89 convictions while the Democrats had 3 and 1
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This is a typical liberal response from PeteF. Dismissing these acts as acceptable because they are not in his state,therefore they don’t concern him. The real problem apparently occurred 5 decades ago so lets focus on that and overlook the current climate,nothing to see here.🤡
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I did not say they were acceptable, I said they were unimportant to me. You can find lots of people in Government who commit crimes, this is like the stupid hat trick that scissored the population.

You don't have to go back that far and there is a difference

Convictions per year in office for the past 50+ years
Trump 3.5
Obama 0 though i think they skipped Petraeus .125
Bush 1.1
Clinton .25
Bush .25
Reagan 2
Carter 0
Ford .4
Nixon 9.8
Johnson 0

Do you choose to hold the party responsible or the individuals PeteF?
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Looks like more than 3.

Anthony Weiner (D-NY)[5] was convicted of sending sexually explicit photos of himself to a 15-year-old girl and was made to sign the sexual offenders register. (2017)[6]

Corrine Brown (D-FL) was convicted on 18 felony counts of wire and tax fraud, conspiracy, lying to federal investigators, and other corruption charges. (2017)[7][8]

Chaka Fattah (D-PA) was convicted on 23 counts of racketeering, fraud, and other corruption charges. (2016)[9]

Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty February 20, 2013, to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 in campaign funds. Jackson was sentenced to two-and-one-half years' imprisonment. (2013)[17]

Laura Richardson (D-CA) was found guilty on seven counts of violating US House rules by improperly using her staff to campaign for her, destroying the evidence and tampering with witness testimony. The House Ethics Committee ordered Richardson to pay a fine of $10,000. (2012)[18][19]

William J. Jefferson (D-LA) was charged in August 2005 after the FBI seized $90,000 in cash from his home freezer. He was re-elected to the House in 2006, but lost in 2008. He was convicted November 13, 2009, of 11 counts of bribery and sentenced to 13 years in prison. (2009)[39] Jefferson's Chief of Staff Brett Pfeffer, was sentenced to 84 months for bribery. (2006)[40]

Frank Ballance (D-NC) admitted to federal charges of money laundering and mail fraud in October 2005 and was sentenced to four years in prison. (2005)[43]

Jim Traficant (D-OH) was found guilty on ten felony counts of financial corruption, sentenced to eight years in prison and expelled from the House of Representatives. (2002)[45]

Wade Sanders (D), Deputy Assistant United States Secretary of the Navy, for Reserve Affairs, was sentenced to 37 months in prison on one charge of possession of child pornography. (2009)[46][47][48]

Darleen A. Druyun (D), Principal Deputy United States Under Secretary of the Air Force.[49] She pleaded guilty to inflating the price of contracts to favor her future employer, Boeing. In October 2004, she was sentenced to nine months in jail for corruption, fined $5,000, given three years of supervised release and 150 hours of community service (2005).[50] CBS News called it "the biggest Pentagon scandal in 20 years" and said that she pleaded guilty to a felony.[51]

Mel Reynolds (D-IL) was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. (1997) He was later convicted of 12 counts of bank fraud. (1999)

Austin Murphy (D-PA) was convicted of one count of voter fraud for filling out absentee ballots for members of a nursing home. (1999)[54]


House banking scandal[55] The House of Representatives Bank found that 450 members had overdrawn their checking accounts, but not been penalized. Six were convicted of charges, most only tangentially related to the House Bank itself. Twenty two more of the most prolific over-drafters were singled out by the House Ethics Committee. (1992)

Carl C. Perkins (D-KY) pleaded guilty to a check kiting scheme involving several financial institutions (including the House Bank).[57]

Carroll Hubbard (D-KY) was convicted of illegally funneling money to his wife's 1992 campaign to succeed him in Congress.[58]

Mary Rose Oakar (D-OH) pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor campaign finance charge not related to the House Bank.[59]

Walter Fauntroy (D-District of Columbia) was convicted of filing false disclosure forms to hide unauthorized income.[60]


Congressional Post Office scandal (1991–1995) was a conspiracy to embezzle House Post Office money through stamps and postal vouchers to congressmen.[61]

Dan Rostenkowski (D-IL) was convicted and sentenced to 18 months in prison, in 1995.[62]

Joe Kolter (D-PA) pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy and sentenced to 6 months in prison.(1996)[63][64]

Thomas Porteous (D) Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas, was convicted of perjury (2010).[65]

Nicholas Mavroules (D-MA]]) was convicted of extortion, accepting illegal gifts and failing to report them on congressional disclosure and income tax forms. Mavroules pleaded guilty to fifteen counts in April 1993 and was sentenced to a fifteen-month prison term. (1993)[67][68]

Albert Bustamante (D-TX) was convicted of accepting bribes and sentenced to three-and-one-half years in prison. (1993)[69]


Abscam FBI sting involving fake 'Arabs' trying to bribe 31 congressmen. (1980)[91] The following Congressmen were convicted:

Harrison A. Williams Senator (D-NJ) Convicted on 9 counts of bribery and conspiracy. Sentenced to 3 years in prison.[92]

John Jenrette (D-SC) sentenced to two years in prison for bribery and conspiracy.[93]

Raymond Lederer (D-PA) "I can give you me" he said after accepting $50K. Sentenced to 3 years.[95]

Michael Myers (D-PA) Accepted $50K saying, "...money talks and bull#^&#^&#^&#^& walks." Sentenced to 3 years and was expelled from the House.[96]

Frank Thompson (D-NJ) Sentenced to 3 years.[97]

John M. Murphy (D-NY) Served 20 months of a 3-year sentence.[98]


Wedtech scandal Wedtech Corporation was convicted of bribery in connection with Defense Department contracts.[99]

Mario Biaggi (D-NY) Convicted of obstruction of justice and accepting illegal gratuities he was sentenced to 2½ years in prison and fined $500K. (1987)[100]

Robert Garcia (D-NY) sentenced to 2½ years.[101]

Frederick W. Richmond (D-NY), Convicted of tax evasion and possession of marijuana. Served 9 months (1982)[105]

Dan Flood (D-PA) censured for bribery. After a trial ended in a deadlocked jury, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to a year's probation. (1981)[106][107]

Joshua Eilberg (D-PA) pleaded guilty to conflict-of-interest charges. (1981)[108]

Frank M. Clark (D-PA) pleaded guilty to mail fraud and tax evasion and was sentenced to two years in prison. (1979)[111]

Fred Richmond (D-NY) – Convicted of tax fraud and possession of marijuana. Served 9 months in prison. Charges of soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy were dropped after he submitted to counseling. (1978)[113]

Charles Diggs (D-MI), convicted on 29 charges of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms which formed a kickback scheme with his staff. Sentenced to 3 years. (1978)[114]

Richard Tonry (D-LA) pleaded guilty to receiving illegal campaign contributions. (1977)[115]

Harry E. Claiborne (D) Chief Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Nevada, was convicted of tax evation (1984).

Bertram Podell (D-NY), pleaded guilty to conspiracy and conflict of interest. He was fined $5,000 and served four months in prison. (1974)[122]

Frank Brasco (D-NY) sentenced to 5 years in jail and fined $10,000 for conspiracy to accept bribes from a reputed Mafia figure who sought truck leasing contracts from the Post Office and loans to buy trucks. (1974)[108]

Richard T. Hanna (D-CA), convicted in an influence-buying scandal. (1974)[123]
John V. Dowdy (D-TX), convicted of perjury and served 6 months in prison. (1973)[124][125]

Cornelius Gallagher (D-NJ) pleaded guilty to tax evasion, and served two years in prison.(1972)[131]

Ted Kennedy Senator (D-MA) drove his car into the channel between Chappaquid#^&#^&#^&#^& Island and Martha's Vineyard, killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Kennedy pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and received a suspended sentence of two months (1969)[132]

What you pay attention to and comment on is truly telling
Ever heard of a Troll?
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I looked it up and saw your picture. Troll boy.
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Funny now conservatives believe a women who said she was sexually assulted. Care about black face from 40 years ago. Look at who broke these stories and why and then you’ll fully understand .. there is no moral outrage behind it .. it was a planned targetedattact .. guess who’s looks to take the seat if they all fall as planned a republican
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What's your point?
Can somebody please explain what it takes to become a democratic leader?

It must suck to have this much hate.

Lol I am still waiting for you to take a postition on any topic you talk a good game but never say much ..
About the issue . You have no reservations talking about people here .. funny how that works....

But your no Troll. Yea ok
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Curious if you applied this same line of logic to the Kavanaugh hearings?

And you conveniently skipped any Republicans,
Connecticut Gov. John G. Rowland, Republican
Rep. Duke Cunningham, R-Calif.
Illinois Gov. George H. Ryan, Republican
Lewis Libby
Idaho Sen. Larry Craig, Republican
Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, Republican
Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas
Idaho Sen. Mike Crapo, Republican
Rep. Rick Renzi, R-Ariz.
Trey Radel, R-Fla.
And
Voters reelected two Republican Congressmen, Chris Collins of New York and Duncan Hunter of California, who are facing federal indictments for alleged insider trading and campaign corruption, respectively.

Pete, how do you expect to have any credibility when you have the number at 3 and TDF posts a list that you ignore and then wonder why it doesn’t include republicans ? Seriously,what kind of source gave you the 3. WTF are you trying to push?
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I have been doing it since ‘02

You have my pity.
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I'm still waiting for Pete (or WDMSO or Spence) to answer if walls worked in San Diego, Yuma, or El Paso?

Here's where this started for me:
"Perhaps more concerning is that since 1969 Republican administrations have had 121 indictments and 89 convictions while the Democrats had 3 and 1"
Then TDF replied with a bunch of Congressmen
Not one of TDFs was in an administration
All of mine were based on members of Presidential administrations, perhaps that was not clear enough or maybe some, like Trump seems to, think Presidents control Congress.

Ahh, so nothing to see here

I didn't skip them, I wasn't disputing the Republicans number, I was disputing the Democrats number.

Then find Democrats in administrations, I added Petraeus because he was in Obama's and not counted.

What positions do you consider as part of an administration? The Cabinet? Advisors?

It's a simple, pertinent yes/no question, that has stopped you in your tracks.

Just answer it!

Lets say people in the administrative branch appointed or hired by the Administration.
Get Googling!

What's an "Administrative" Branch? Is this something that AOC is pushing for? :hihi:

Ahh
Executive branch
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