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Pete F. 02-12-2020 12:51 PM

After the Stable Genius
 
I've been saying that every tool Floridaman and the Trumplicans build now to exploit a temporary position of power will be turned back on them later.

Because if you break the boundaries and rules and norms the other side will justify using the same tactics.

Weaponize the DOJ? Just wait.

Protect your goombas by interfering in the course of justice? Just wait.

Encourage your people to engage in actions that range from shady to illegal with the promise of pardons? Just wait.

Govern by executive orders? Just wait.

There's a particularly stupid trope among Trumplicans that Republican consultants and operatives before Floridaman were all passive losers. (Ignore Republicans winning 2000 seats over 20 years).

They think that because they didn’t wreck everything that it was somehow a chain of losses.

That's because most people who make that case have never worked in campaigns or in government. Their point is mostly masturbatory.

They don’t get that you’ve got to be in for the long march, because putting the work in over decades is what changes the country.

You also don’t set precedents of abusing power, wrecking the rule of law, and putting the government to work for the personal financial and political benefit of the candidate.

Call me crazy but avoiding all those things is the conservative position and it’s also the liberal position. It’s the honest path, something over which no one and no party has dominion.

Trumpism is not conservative. It is a radical, jumped up form of authoritarian stat-ism. It is nationalism and corporate socialism.

History doesn’t exactly repeat but it surely lays down a fat beat and a steady flow.

So look forward to a Dem President in 2021 asking who paid for Beers O' Kavanaugh's mortgage and credit card debts on Twitter on a daily basis and you can skyscream But..........

Raider Ronnie 02-12-2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1186060)
I've been saying that every tool Floridaman and the Trumplicans build now to exploit a temporary position of power will be turned back on them later.

Because if you break the boundaries and rules and norms the other side will justify using the same tactics.

Weaponize the DOJ? Just wait.

Protect your goombas by interfering in the course of justice? Just wait.

Encourage your people to engage in actions that range from shady to illegal with the promise of pardons? Just wait.

Govern by executive orders? Just wait.

There's a particularly stupid trope among Trumplicans that Republican consultants and operatives before Floridaman were all passive losers. (Ignore Republicans winning 2000 seats over 20 years).

They think that because they didn’t wreck everything that it was somehow a chain of losses.

That's because most people who make that case have never worked in campaigns or in government. Their point is mostly masturbatory.

They don’t get that you’ve got to be in for the long march, because putting the work in over decades is what changes the country.

You also don’t set precedents of abusing power, wrecking the rule of law, and putting the government to work for the personal financial and political benefit of the candidate.

Call me crazy but avoiding all those things is the conservative position and it’s also the liberal position. It’s the honest path, something over which no one and no party has dominion.

Trumpism is not conservative. It is a radical, jumped up form of authoritarian stat-ism. It is nationalism and corporate socialism.

History doesn’t exactly repeat but it surely lays down a fat beat and a steady flow.

So look forward to a Dem President in 2021 asking who paid for Beers O' Kavanaugh's mortgage and credit card debts on Twitter on a daily basis and you can skyscream But..........





You need to get laid badly !!!
Go upstairs from the basement and get a $20 from your mother’s pocket book and go get a BJ.
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Pete F. 02-12-2020 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1186078)
You need to get laid badly !!!
Go upstairs from the basement and get a $20 from your mother’s pocket book and go get a BJ.
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I’m not really interested in your offer, maybe dangles or Jim will take you up on it.
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spence 02-12-2020 07:02 PM

Sounds like RR has the inside scoop on some premium action :hihi:
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Jim in CT 02-12-2020 07:35 PM

obama didn’t weaponize the doj? tell that to Carter Page. The obama administration didn’t weaponize the IRS?

You only care when Trump
does it. Selective outrage, is fake outrage.
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PaulS 02-12-2020 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186091)
obama didn’t weaponize the doj? tell that to Carter Page. The obama administration didn’t weaponize the IRS?

You only care when Trump
does it. Selective outrage, is fake outrage.
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What exactly did Obama do to weaponize the IRS?
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Jim in CT 02-12-2020 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1186093)
What exactly did Obama do to weaponize the IRS?
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it was proven that under obama, the IRS was targeting conservative groups for being conservative. no evidence obama ordered it, but his head of the IRS thought it was acceptable.
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spence 02-12-2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186098)
it was proven that under obama, the IRS was targeting conservative groups for being conservative. no evidence obama ordered it, but his head of the IRS thought it was acceptable.
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None of this is true Jim.
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detbuch 02-12-2020 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1186099)
None of this is true Jim.
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The mighty Spence has spoken . . . hopefully, the little dog won't pull back the curtain.

PaulS 02-12-2020 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186098)
it was proven that under obama, the IRS was targeting conservative groups for being conservative. no evidence obama ordered it, but his head of the IRS thought it was acceptable.
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The IRS was overwhelmed with groups registering for special tax status. And the low-level people who were guilty of the targeting by name we're doing it cuz they were swamped. They searched groups who had the word tea party in them and groups who had the word progressive in them. I believe all of these groups were registering as social welfare groups which would give them special tax status . There were more conservative groups then liberal groups trying to get registered. The numerous investigations found that there was no ill intent. And one low-level person. I believe lost their job. There was no proof that anybody weaponized anyone or anything for political benefit.
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Jim in CT 02-12-2020 08:55 PM

paul, if they were merely swamped, the results wouldn’t be discrepancies based on politics.
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PaulS 02-12-2020 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186107)
paul, if they were merely swamped, the results wouldn’t be discrepancies based on politics.
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There were many many more Conservative groups trying to register.
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Sea Dangles 02-12-2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1186084)
I’m not really interested in your offer, maybe dangles or Jim will take you up on it.
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I have no interest in your Mom but I will gladly take the pocketbook. Thanks for the offer anyhow.
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