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Jim in CT 03-23-2020 07:28 PM

democrats virus relief bill
 
requires that companies have officers and a budget dedicated to diversity and inclusion.

dedicates $300 million to hiring pandemic specialists, but mandates quotas for those specialists based on race and disability. god knows that matters more than ability.

increased collective bargaining for labor unions.

mandates same-day voter registration.

all of that really matters when faced with a pandemic.

Nebe 03-23-2020 07:42 PM

A crisis should never go to waste
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Jim in CT 03-23-2020 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1188729)
A crisis should never go to waste
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true, and for sure both sides do it.
But it’s a political gamble.
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Got Stripers 03-24-2020 07:05 AM

Trump promised to personally oversee the corporation bailout money, what could possibly go wrong there and boy that’s really going to cut into his TV and Twitter time.

Jim in CT 03-24-2020 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1188759)
Trump promised to personally oversee the corporation bailout money, what could possibly go wrong there and boy that’s really going to cut into his TV and Twitter time.

Not one syllable about the pathetic pet projects that democrats tried to sneak in there, instead pivot immediately to bashing Trump. No other topics are allowed, only Trump bashing.

And $35 million for the Kennedy Center For The Arts. That will help sick people!! Hooray!!

Got Stripers 03-24-2020 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1188760)
Not one syllable about the pathetic pet projects that democrats tried to sneak in there, instead pivot immediately to bashing Trump. No other topics are allowed, only Trump bashing.

And $35 million for the Kennedy Center For The Arts. That will help sick people!! Hooray!!

Look I’m sick of politics in general and you can’t possibly suggest that if the roles were reversed the republican held congress would be up to the same crap. Do I think it’s right, absolutely not, shame on both the congress and the senate for not taking a two tp step approach, approve immediate cash to all Americans under a certain income and then work on a bill for small and large businesses.

Doesn’t mean I am not continually disappointed by the pathetic messaging by Trump and now when we need the honest truth from the medical experts, because Trump is pissed he is constantly listening to them contradict his predictions, they are now absent from the briefings.

Jim in CT 03-24-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1188762)
Look I’m sick of politics in general and you can’t possibly suggest that if the roles were reversed the republican held congress would be up to the same crap. Do I think it’s right, absolutely not, shame on both the congress and the senate for not taking a two tp step approach, approve immediate cash to all Americans under a certain income and then work on a bill for small and large businesses.

Doesn’t mean I am not continually disappointed by the pathetic messaging by Trump and now when we need the honest truth from the medical experts, because Trump is pissed he is constantly listening to them contradict his predictions, they are now absent from the briefings.

I said very explicitly, both sides do it. I don't see evidence in this case, that the GOP did it. Are they diverting money to the NRA, or to Foxnews, or to the Koch brothers?

Not everything is about Trump.

Got Stripers 03-24-2020 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1188765)
I said very explicitly, both sides do it. I don't see evidence in this case, that the GOP did it. Are they diverting money to the NRA, or to Foxnews, or to the Koch brothers?

Not everything is about Trump.

In Trumps mind I fear everything is about a Trump, his image, is support, his businesses and the market of course. His messaging all along, even yesterday with a second update without medical experts to correct him, has been an effort to downplay this crisis.

Sea Dangles 03-24-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1188762)
Look I’m sick of politics in general and you can’t possibly suggest that if the roles were reversed the republican held congress would be up to the same crap. Do I think it’s right, absolutely not, shame on both the congress and the senate for not taking a two tp step approach, approve immediate cash to all Americans under a certain income and then work on a bill for small and large businesses.

Doesn’t mean I am not continually disappointed by the pathetic messaging by Trump and now when we need the honest truth from the medical experts, because Trump is pissed he is constantly listening to them contradict his predictions, they are now absent from the briefings.

Good post,getting close to normal!
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scottw 03-24-2020 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1188762)
Look I’m sick of politics in general .

yet you can't put them aside for one second even in a national emergency:uhuh:

wdmso 03-24-2020 08:15 AM

Post what's in the Republican bill. Why are republicans against same day registration, expansion of union right. Solar tax credits Which helps workers everything you posted helps the avg Joe
But you see it as a pet project ,,, but a 3000 dollar check after cashed and spent the benefit ends , is great work by republicans

Republicans sets aside $350 billion to provide loans for small businesses. That money would be available to small businesses that don’t lay off workers.this provision excludes “nonprofits receiving Medicaid expenditures,” which would not be eligible for those loans.
Aka planned parenthood and nonprofits that get Medicaid funding, such as home and community-based disability providers; community-based nursing homes, mental health providers and health centers; group homes for the disabled; and even rape crisis centers.


$500 billion for corporate bailouts that the administration could administer with little transparency. Notice the administration so no issues with trump having 500 billion to make it rain on who he feels deserves the money GOP senators are using this bill to jam through a provision that could exclude so many nonprofit providers.

Dem pet projects protect workers Republicans are worried about abortion ?

Got Stripers 03-24-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1188772)
yet you can't put them aside for one second even in a national emergency:uhuh:

Really? How about the fact that politics might kill far more than is needed because image and economy trump lives. Just because I'm tired of politics as usual doesn't mean I stop posting my view, stop contributing if I see a candidate I support, or exercising my right to vote. I think that comment really needs to have Why can't Trump in front of it.

scottw 03-24-2020 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1188779)
Really? How about the fact that politics might kill far more than is needed because image and economy trump lives. Just because I'm tired of politics as usual doesn't mean I stop posting my view, stop contributing if I see a candidate I support, or exercising my right to vote. I think that comment really needs to have Why can't Trump in front of it.

you said "in general"...not "as usual"...there is a difference

complaining isn't really contributing...

Got Stripers 03-24-2020 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1188780)
I wish Trump would stop complaining about the media, the Democrats and past administrations it really isn’t contributing...

Fixed

Sea Dangles 03-24-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1188773)
Post what's in the Republican bill. Why are republicans against same day registration, expansion of union right. Solar tax credits Which helps workers everything you posted helps the avg Joe
But you see it as a pet project ,,, but a 3000 dollar check after cashed and spent the benefit ends , is great work by republicans

Republicans sets aside $350 billion to provide loans for small businesses. That money would be available to small businesses that don’t lay off workers.this provision excludes “nonprofits receiving Medicaid expenditures,” which would not be eligible for those loans.
Aka planned parenthood and nonprofits that get Medicaid funding, such as home and community-based disability providers; community-based nursing homes, mental health providers and health centers; group homes for the disabled; and even rape crisis centers.


$500 billion for corporate bailouts that the administration could administer with little transparency. Notice the administration so no issues with trump having 500 billion to make it rain on who he feels deserves the money GOP senators are using this bill to jam through a provision that could exclude so many nonprofit providers.

Dem pet projects protect workers Republicans are worried about abortion ?

Not surprising that your focus is jaded . I feel bad for you but even worse for Peg
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scottw 03-24-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1188785)
Fixed

be a ray of sunshine...not a cloud of despair :kewl:

Jim in CT 03-24-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1188767)
In Trumps mind I fear everything is about a Trump, his image, is support, his businesses and the market of course. His messaging all along, even yesterday with a second update without medical experts to correct him, has been an effort to downplay this crisis.

i agree that in trumps
mind, everything is about trump. i was talking about you guys, but proving my point better than i ever could, you again pivoted immediately to trump.

if you three-putt during your next round, do you blame Trump? “if it wasn’t for global warming that putt would’ve gone in, ...”.
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scottw 03-24-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1188797)

if you three-putt during your next round, do you blame Trump?


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too funny

wdmso 03-24-2020 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1188788)
Not surprising that your focus is jaded . I feel bad for you but even worse for Peg
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pointing out the othersides efforts are Jaded , that's funny

Got Stripers 03-24-2020 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1188797)
i agree that in trumps
mind, everything is about trump. i was talking about you guys, but proving my point better than i ever could, you again pivoted immediately to trump.

if you three-putt during your next round, do you blame Trump? “if it wasn’t for global warming that putt would’ve gone in, ...”.
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Almost never three putt, putter is the best club in my bag, no worries there.

Jim in CT 03-24-2020 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1188811)
Almost never three putt, putter is the best club in my bag, no worries there.

you sort of missed the point, not unexpected.
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Got Stripers 03-24-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1188814)
you sort of missed the point, not unexpected.
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No I didn’t you did, point is I disregard completely the stupid responses which warrant nothing in return.

Jim in CT 03-24-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1188815)
No I didn’t you did, point is I disregard completely the stupid responses which warrant nothing in return.

you made an entire post without blaming Trump for
something! See if you can build
on that.
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Sea Dangles 03-24-2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1188802)
pointing out the othersides efforts are Jaded , that's funny

Wayne, I don’t understand what you mean by “ the other side.”
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Sea Dangles 03-24-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1188815)
No I didn’t you did, point is I am completely stupid.

Fixed it
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