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t_man7 11-07-2021 10:29 PM

Defects W/ 6X VMC
 
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Anyone else seeing lots of defects in the welded single prong on they’re 6X VMC’s? I have had a few 3/0’s where the welded prong is drastically below the double prongs.

t_man7 11-07-2021 10:31 PM

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pbadad 11-08-2021 07:57 AM

Very observant Tommy. Ill check back when i check inventory.
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piemma 11-08-2021 10:12 AM

T, I only fish VMC 4/0 4X. I may have some 6X and I'll check. Thought of you while Huddy, DZ and I were on the Island.

beamie 11-08-2021 11:58 AM

Do you think that is really drastically low?? Not saying it shouldn’t be equal but I don’t really think it matters all that much do you? An observation but not really a defect.
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EliTheBeerGuy 11-08-2021 12:08 PM

Tommy I inevitably find 2-5 bad hooks in every box of 1000. In the trebles lately I'm finding less bad hooks, and oddly I've been finding a few wrong sizes. Like laughable small, as in a couple size 8 trebles mixed in the box of 3/0. I actually think I've been seeing less "bad" hooks in the past year or two, compared to just a few years ago. I definitely haven't seen enough to justify a return or anything.

Keep track of quantity of bad hooks you're seeing, and if you reach out to them they'll want the batch/date codes on the packaging and probably where you're buying them from.

t_man7 11-08-2021 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by beamie (Post 1217413)
Do you think that is really drastically low?? Not saying it shouldn’t be equal but I don’t really think it matters all that much do you? An observation but not really a defect.
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The formation of the hook isn’t even correct, look at the length between the barb and the start of the bend. I think it matters, it completely changed the hook geometry.

t_man7 11-08-2021 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EliTheBeerGuy (Post 1217414)
Tommy I inevitably find 2-5 bad hooks in every box of 1000. In the trebles lately I'm finding less bad hooks, and oddly I've been finding a few wrong sizes. Like laughable small, as in a couple size 8 trebles mixed in the box of 3/0. I actually think I've been seeing less "bad" hooks in the past year or two, compared to just a few years ago. I definitely haven't seen enough to justify a return or anything.

Keep track of quantity of bad hooks you're seeing, and if you reach out to them they'll want the batch/date codes on the packaging and probably where you're buying them from.

Hey Elliot!
I looked through about 10 hooks and 2 of those 10 were bad, haven’t looked through the rest yet, but going off those numbers I may have 20-40 (and I’m betting it’s probably more around the 20 range) bad hooks in the 200 3/0’s that I bought.
I have also found just a few random sizes of hooks, but usually close sizes, not drastically different. Found some double hooks as well.
Tommy

beamie 11-08-2021 10:05 PM

Is it a case where a 4/0 segment got mixed in with a 3/0 and welded on ?
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t_man7 11-08-2021 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by beamie (Post 1217434)
Is it a case where a 4/0 segment got mixed in with a 3/0 and welded on ?
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Good thinking, but I do not believe so. The total length is wrong, if you look at the top of the welded prong near the eye you will see it is slightly lowered. I believe it is just a positioning error in the bending machine, and on top of that was welded incorrectly much lower.

tlapinski 11-09-2021 03:29 PM

I'd be more worried about the 6x VMC breaking on a good fish than whether or not the arms line up. That's one of many reasons why I gave up on VMC trebles in favor of the 5x Mustads several years ago.

ivanputski 11-10-2021 08:20 PM

Have also completely switched to Mustad 5x years ago.
Never looked back, and haven't used VMC since trying the mustads


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