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Jim in CT 12-24-2021 08:29 AM

Are parents opposed to reading in general? or is this inappropriate?
 
A teacher at a school board meeting in Round Rock texas, mocked parents as being illiterate religious freaks, for opposing a few books that were in the middle school.

One of the books is called Gender Queer: A Memoir.

here’s a link to what’s in there, scroll down a bit, you’ll see some stuff i dont think is appropriate for any public middle school. and i like reading. my oldest was 11 when he started middle school.

can’t post pictures on my phone, but the link will bring you to some disgusting stuff.

No one is talking about banning worthwhile literature. this is disgusting smut.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/theiowa...ss-iowa/%3famp

Raider Ronnie 12-24-2021 09:25 AM

Jim
You’re as bad as Pete & a few others with the non stop post.
It’s Christmas
Give it a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing brake for a few days at least or even better till January 2nd.
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Jim in CT 12-24-2021 09:35 AM

or you can not read it if you don’t want.

merry xmas to you and family as well!!
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Pete F. 12-24-2021 09:43 AM

About 4% of the population identifies as LGBTQ and some estimates are double that.
How many parents could have an open discussion with their child about sexuality, especially if the child were one of the 4%?


Here’s some more books that some think should be banned.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...ss/5758877001/
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Jim in CT 12-24-2021 10:10 AM

pete i have no issue discussing sexuality appropriately.

did you look at the illustrations in the book? boys blowing each other? in a middle school?

it’s pornography. there’s no argument to be made, that it’s not pornography.

merry xmas pete.
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wdmso 12-24-2021 12:49 PM

Same book was in SC High school I don’t think it’s inappropriate in high school setting it’s a book not part of any class or suggested reading.

The book is a safer way to deal with the issues in the book then what these same kids can find on their phones which these outraged parents seem to completely over look

At Jr high and below absolutely inappropriate but haven’t seen where that’s been the case

But this isn’t about protecting children no kid is going to pick up the book and become gay or Transgender, it’s just more of the same attacking the whole concept that Transgender kids exist , and removing a resource that’s safer than the internet and safer than their parents who may not be receptive that their kid is gay or possibly Transgender ..

Not to long ago kids just looked at moms Victoria secret catalogs to rub one out
Was that pornography…. To some I am sure it was

wdmso 12-24-2021 12:53 PM

Here’s one if it’s a library book let’s see who checked it out ! Then the parents can find them, Or even see if it’s been looked at by a kid at all ..

More spoon fed outrage …. Don’t ask what’s in your Chinese food

spence 12-24-2021 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1219651)
But this isn’t about protecting children no kid is going to pick up the book and become gay or Transgender, it’s just more of the same attacking the whole concept that Transgender kids exist , and removing a resource that’s safer than the internet and safer than their parents who may not be receptive that their kid is gay or possibly Transgender ..

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

Jim in CT 12-26-2021 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1219652)
Here’s one if it’s a library book let’s see who checked it out ! Then the parents can find them, Or even see if it’s been looked at by a kid at all ..

More spoon fed outrage …. Don’t ask what’s in your Chinese food

pornography. doesn’t. belong. in. public.. school.

sorry if that’s going too fast for you. i don’t want 11 year olds thinking about going down on each other.

if we can’t agree on this, there’s nothing that unites us, and we should split into two countries.

fnhie buden said this book was trash. you’d all agree. but you must always reflexively disagree with everything from the right.

stop buying pornography, buy more school
supplies. teachers are always complaining about having g to but classroom supplies.

divert money from pornography to supplies.
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spence 12-28-2021 05:36 PM

I don’t see any references to this book being in middle schools, just high schools. Even the publisher has an age rating of 15 which seems appropriate.

Jim in CT 12-28-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1219791)
I don’t see any references to this book being in middle schools, just high schools. Even the publisher has an age rating of 15 which seems appropriate.

illustrations of boys with their wangs deep down each others throats, is ok with you in a public school

it has zero business in any public school.



library? it’s not pornography?
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spence 12-28-2021 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1219792)
it’s not pornography?
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Not by most definions.

Got Stripers 12-28-2021 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1219792)
illustrations of boys with their wangs deep down each others throats, is ok with you in a public school

it has zero business in any public school.



library? it’s not pornography?
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It’s on the Catholic priests best seller list.

Jim in CT 12-28-2021 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1219795)
It’s on the Catholic priests best seller list.

good one!
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Jim in CT 12-28-2021 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1219794)
Not by most definions.

which definitions wouldn’t include illustrations of young men with their wangs in each others mouths?
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wdmso 12-28-2021 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1219792)
illustrations of boys with their wangs deep down each others throats, is ok with you in a public school

it has zero business in any public school.



library? it’s not pornography?
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1 book VS every kid in a public has a phone that connects to the internet ...

which is more likely to be shown to classmates

A a poorly drawn cartoon of a BJ or a Gay porn video on a phone!

like I said fake outrage because being against teachers and school boards is the latest conservative soup of the day :sleeps:

scottw 12-28-2021 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1219651)

and removing a resource

It’s a “resource”🤣
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Jim in CT 12-28-2021 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1219799)
1 book VS every kid in a public has a phone that connects to the internet ...

which is more likely to be shown to classmates

A a poorly drawn cartoon of a BJ or a Gay porn video on a phone!

like I said fake outrage because being against teachers and school boards is the latest conservative soup of the day :sleeps:

i’m not saying that book is the worst thing that ever existed. you’re saying because it’s not the worst, therefore it’s ok.

ok.

using that logic, hitler and mao were worse than Trump, so quit your “fake outrage” over trump.

sounds stupid,, doesn’t it?

school should be a safe place for kids, a place to be away from all the crap they see elsewhere.

republicans cannot have a position that’s actually principled, right? only liberals can do that. right?

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spence 12-28-2021 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1219804)
school should be a safe place for kids, a place to be away from all the crap they see elsewhere.

Perhaps for some teens navigating an LGBQT journey in life school is a safer place than home.

detbuch 12-28-2021 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1219804)
i’m not saying that book is the worst thing that ever existed. you’re saying because it’s not the worst, therefore it’s ok.

ok.

using that logic, hitler and mao were worse than Trump, so quit your “fake outrage” over trump.

sounds stupid,, doesn’t it?

school should be a safe place for kids, a place to be away from all the crap they see elsewhere.

republicans cannot have a position that’s actually principled, right? only liberals can do that. right?

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"Conservatives" are stuck in the old notion that school is for teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic, basics in the early years progressing to advanced versions and civics in order to prepare their children for success in their adult years as well to prepare them for the knowledge and moral based citizenship that puts our republic on solid ground.

Progressives have an advanced vision that sees K-12 as a training ground to prepare the children for the infinite variety of people and genders and experiences required to civilly acculturate them into the truly progressive international world of today and tomorrow. "illustrations of young men with their wangs in each others mouths" is but a small sample of the world they will grow into. They need to be prepared not only in how to participate, but to be cleansed from destructive negative judgments of the actual, beautiful world that exists in which they can immerse themselves rather than being extremist, nationalistic, (white)supremacist dangers to a peaceful well functioning world.

Jim in CT 12-29-2021 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1219806)
Perhaps for some teens navigating an LGBQT journey in life school is a safer place than home.

being free from hatred, doesn’t mean everyone else needs to see pictures of what they do in private.

you’re making this into
an anti gay thing. i’d say the same thing ( pretty much ) if the illustrations were of a boy and a girl doing oral. has zero business in school.
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Jim in CT 12-29-2021 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1219807)
"Conservatives" are stuck in the old notion that school is for teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic, basics in the early years progressing to advanced versions and civics in order to prepare their children for success in their adult years as well to prepare them for the knowledge and moral based citizenship that puts our republic on solid ground.

Progressives have an advanced vision that sees K-12 as a training ground to prepare the children for the infinite variety of people and genders and experiences required to civilly acculturate them into the truly progressive international world of today and tomorrow. "illustrations of young men with their wangs in each others mouths" is but a small sample of the world they will grow into. They need to be prepared not only in how to participate, but to be cleansed from destructive negative judgments of the actual, beautiful world that exists in which they can immerse themselves rather than being extremist, nationalistic, (white)supremacist dangers to a peaceful well functioning world.

that’s what it is, which his why my three are in catholic school
now
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scottw 12-29-2021 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1219821)

i’d say the same thing ( pretty much ) if the illustrations were of a boy and a girl doing oral.

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surely "resources" such as these are available in the school library as well...:humpty:

Pete F. 12-29-2021 12:30 PM

So where are kids most likely to find this sort of stuff, the library, the internet or a streaming service.
I would be surprised if the library is even a small part.
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Jim in CT 12-29-2021 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1219824)
So where are kids most likely to find this sort of stuff, the library, the internet or a streaming service.
I would be surprised if the library is even a small part.
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probably more likely online. Doesn't mean we don't address pornography thats in the schools.

Are you more likely to die of heart disease or covid? Answer - heart disease. That doesn't mean you don't get the covid vaccine, right?

You guys all do the same exact thing. You're saying that because this isn't the single most serious threat that kids face, therefore it's not worth discussing.

It's absurd logic.

Jim in CT 12-29-2021 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1219823)
surely "resources" such as these are available in the school library as well...:humpty:

not where my kids go to school.

scottw 12-29-2021 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1219824)

So where are kids most likely to find this sort of stuff, the library, the internet or a streaming service.


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this is irrelevant....kids can get pot outside of school, should we offer it with their lunches? call it a resource?

spence 12-29-2021 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1219826)
not where my kids go to school.

Were you poking your finger into your chest when you wrote this?

Got Stripers 12-29-2021 04:37 PM

Must be a slow news week if this is the crap you clowns have a hard on (oops) for. Probably hundreds of thousand of kids suffer from depression, cyber bullying and other stuff and Jim gets stuck on a book that probably doesn’t shock a single kid of age to see it.

Jim in CT 12-29-2021 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1219830)
Must be a slow news week if this is the crap you clowns have a hard on (oops) for. Probably hundreds of thousand of kids suffer from depression, cyber bullying and other stuff and Jim gets stuck on a book that probably doesn’t shock a single kid of age to see it.

another extremely intelligent response.

if you’re concerned about childhood depression, maybe your side could start advocating for what’s actually best for children, and stop taking orders from teachers unions.

have someone read to you, the thread title. it’s not about this book. it’s about teachers saying that parents who don’t want this book in school, are bigots who promote illiteracy.

attacking parents for caring, has been a super productive strategy for the left, it worked awesome
in Virginia where the democrats steamrolled the republicans.
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