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Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 04:18 PM
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Posted By detbuch
You keep repeating this shortened version and...

You keep repeating this shortened version and avoiding the rest of the story.
Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 11:36 AM
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Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
Freedom of speech (now referred to as expression)...

Freedom of speech (now referred to as expression) and the free exercise of religion were meant to be freedoms practiced in the public, as well as the private, square. So there must be accommodations...
Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 11:35 AM
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Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
It was done by the amendment process which the...

It was done by the amendment process which the Founders put in the Constitution. It wasn't a matter of someone later just negated the Founders will.

And the First Amendment rights were not taken...
Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 10:02 AM
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Posted By detbuch
At the time the First Amendment was drafted, it...

At the time the First Amendment was drafted, it applied to the federal government. It now still applies to the federal government but also to the states.
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 11:11 PM
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Posted By detbuch
As I have said, over and over, rights must...

As I have said, over and over, rights must conform and be in concordance, in ultimate agreement, with all other rights. Those are the only limitations on rights. They are limited by their...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 09:00 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
It is interesting how those who claim that the...

It is interesting how those who claim that the First Amendment or other rights derived from the structure of the Constitution are not absolute, yet then claim an absoluteness to various legal...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 08:25 PM
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Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
Again, he rejected, not on the grounds of...

Again, he rejected, not on the grounds of sexuality, but on the basis of his religious beliefs. The scope of those beliefs would in some cases involve straight couples as well.

And if, as you...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 05:09 PM
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Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
It wasn't on the grounds of sexuality. It was on...

It wasn't on the grounds of sexuality. It was on the grounds of religion. He was willing to sell his pre-made cakes to them regardless of their sexuality. It wasn't about their sexuality, it was...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 03:30 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
There's that tricky word "equally" again. What...

There's that tricky word "equally" again. What is equality in the marketplace? Isn't equality the antithesis of a market . . . of a free market? Competition, lower prices here than there, porn...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 01:42 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
His religion would not want Mr. Phillips to deny...

His religion would not want Mr. Phillips to deny gays, or anyone else, their right to eat. Sinners are to be fed as well as the faithful. Participating in their right to eat would not be prohibited...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 10:19 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
50 years ago, an owner of a restaurant could have...

50 years ago, an owner of a restaurant could have run his business in accordance with his religion without being convicted of denying someone else's civil rights.
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 10:54 PM
Replies: 120
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Posted By detbuch
When the baker was informed that the cake was for...

When the baker was informed that the cake was for a gay wedding, that was tantamount to asking the baker to participate in a wedding that was against his religion--regardless of what the cake looked...
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 10:47 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
Are you saying that "hate" is peculiar to...

Are you saying that "hate" is peculiar to Christians. It certainly isn't a Christian tenet. Christ did not say hate your enemy. On the other hand, being human, Christians are as prone to that...
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 10:27 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
How is that a logical response to my saying...

How is that a logical response to my saying "That's the reason that religious liberty is protected by the Constitution. It is "odd" [your characterization of the Baker's beliefs] to non-believers. If...
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 09:36 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
That's the sibling to the bumper sticker that...

That's the sibling to the bumper sticker that says "If your opinion requires hating Christians, find new one."
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 09:33 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
What's love got to do with it?

What's love got to do with it?
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 09:29 PM
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Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
It only wanted to have sex with cakes that had...

It only wanted to have sex with cakes that had the same genitalia as it.
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 06:01 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
That's the reason that religious liberty is...

That's the reason that religious liberty is protected by the Constitution. It is "odd" to non-believers. If being "odd" was a crime, there are times that you'd be breaking the law.
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 03:57 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
The baker was not hiring any potential employees....

The baker was not hiring any potential employees. He was selling cakes and pastries which he made and sold to anyone who wanted to buy them, including gays. He did not, nor did he want to, make gay...
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 01:46 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
And yet it is imposing on religious rights.

And yet it is imposing on religious rights.
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 10:07 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
It would be nice if the leftists politicians and...

It would be nice if the leftists politicians and judges would back off of trampling on the First and Second Amendments.

What does the religious right do to mess with the so-called separation of...
Forum: Political Threads 12-05-2017, 08:25 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
A Muslim Imam who I actually like . . . but

Not yet. He does get a lot of death threats.
Forum: Political Threads 12-05-2017, 08:15 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,844
Posted By detbuch
A Muslim Iman that I actually like and wish the best. . . but

It might take a long time for his version of Islam to happen . . . but we in the West can hope. It is not only a greatly reformed version, he calls for it to recognize the separation of church...
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