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"The ban was strictly a University of Virginia...
"The ban was strictly a University of Virginia campus ban. It was not a state law."
Fine. It was a campus ban. But college campuses are also subject to the US Constitution, they are not allowed...
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10-31-2017, 02:56 PM
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You can be bothered by it, of course. The...
You can be bothered by it, of course. The founding fathers apparently were not, or they would not have banned possession of firearms on the VA campus. Some of the same guys who wrote the...
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The federal judge that struck down the DC,...
The federal judge that struck down the DC, referred to the jurisdiction as a state.
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10-31-2017, 02:47 PM
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I'm not missing that point. I am saying that the...
I'm not missing that point. I am saying that the ability of states to limit gun rights, is clearly subject to the supremacy clause. I cited a recent case where a federal judge struck down a gun ban...
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That matters why? The founding fathers...
That matters why?
The founding fathers passed a state ban of all possession of firearms on campus. They presumed that was constitutional.
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10-31-2017, 09:49 AM
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"in what way is your right to free speech...
"in what way is your right to free speech restricted?..."
It's a crime for me to threaten somebody.
"you seem to want to limit(federally) the rights of those that have yet to infringe on the...
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10-31-2017, 09:38 AM
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OK, I agree with you that the supremacy clause...
OK, I agree with you that the supremacy clause limits the areas in which federal law trumps state law, to those powers enumerated in the constitution. But it would seem that gun rights and...
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"The right to arms has exactly the same kinds of...
"The right to arms has exactly the same kinds of "restrictions" . . . One can't brandish or threaten the use of a weapon, one can't shoot at someone without justification, one can not kill another...
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Scott, the supremacy clause, very clearly limits...
Scott, the supremacy clause, very clearly limits what states can do. States may not pass a law which violates the US Constitution.
I get what detbuch is saying about a list of enumerated powers...
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10-30-2017, 05:48 PM
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So what the two of you seem to be saying, is that...
So what the two of you seem to be saying, is that at the time the Bill Of Rights was crafted, it only limited what the feds could do? The United States Constitution did not apply to the states? ...
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I guess I'm not sure I follow you. Some of...
I guess I'm not sure I follow you.
Some of the same guys who wrote the second amendment, also crafted the ban at the university. Which necessarily means, the founding fathers did not intend for...
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10-11-2017, 03:18 PM
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"I've listened to your arguments. They seem, to...
"I've listened to your arguments. They seem, to me, to be based on your emotional reactions to events"
Guilty as charged.
"a lack of trust in a free people's owning lethal things, especially...
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"not demanding more laws that are supposed to...
"not demanding more laws that are supposed to diminish hand gun deaths "
Of course I recognize that many more Americans are killed in garden-variety gun crime, where handguns are used. I am a...
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"Jefferson owned many guns. And he recommended...
"Jefferson owned many guns. And he recommended carrying a gun with you"
Not on a college campus, he didn't. Therefore, he was OK with certain restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms, in...
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Like you, I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone......
Like you, I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone...
You asked for examples of restrictions of our freedoms. You didn't qualify your request. I answered the question that you asked.
"tell me how...
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10-10-2017, 08:41 AM
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The 2nd amendment says that right to keep and...
The 2nd amendment says that right to keep and bear, shall not be infringed. The same guys who wrote that, drafted a rule that banned guns on campus. Therefore, they very clearly did not mean that...
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10-10-2017, 08:36 AM
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Really? Freedom of speech - can't threaten...
Really?
Freedom of speech - can't threaten someone, can't yell "fire" in a theater, can't possess or create kiddie porn.
Freedom of religion - no human sacrifices, no mutilating women's...
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10-09-2017, 02:01 PM
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I feel like I'm talking to a liberal too. You...
I feel like I'm talking to a liberal too. You are claiming I am saying things, that bear no resemblance to anything I have ever said.
"you act as there are no gun laws"
In what way am I acting...
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10-09-2017, 11:20 AM
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If you are concerned, then you don't know what I...
If you are concerned, then you don't know what I am doing, probably because I am not articulating it well.
If it's unconstitutional to impose restrictions to the second amendment for the sake of...
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Right, you can talk about it, fantasize about...
Right, you can talk about it, fantasize about it...but you cannot possess it, nor can an artist create it and say it's protected free speech. Because the freedoms are not absolute, they were never...
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10-09-2017, 11:07 AM
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No, you didn't. The freedoms absolutely have...
No, you didn't. The freedoms absolutely have restrictions, which I can be arrested for violating.
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Scott it's historical fact that the same guys who...
Scott it's historical fact that the same guys who wrote the second amendment, also wrote a rule saying that no guns were allowed on the University of Virginia campus. Therefore, the only conceivable...
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Yes, what has actually happened, while we have...
Yes, what has actually happened, while we have been gradually conditioned to want the federal government to "do something" about every crisis and public emotional trauma, is that we have been...
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10-09-2017, 10:37 AM
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Oh I agree, and that's why I didn't bring it up,...
Oh I agree, and that's why I didn't bring it up, detbuch did. He said we need to be wary of gun restrictions because the restrictions can be expanded. My point was that all laws can potentially be...
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10-06-2017, 03:01 PM
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And how can you insure that this will always be...
And how can you insure that this will always be so?[/QUOTE]
"No, it's not the same issue"
How is it not the same issue? If the issue is "sometimes it's OK to limit freedoms in the interest of...
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