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Forum: Political Threads

05-09-2009, 06:56 AM

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Posted By spence

It sounds like they were briefed but also told...

It sounds like they were briefed but also told the practice was legal. Considering the situation I'd be surprised if anyone in a top secret briefing would call their briefer a liar to voice moral...

Forum: Political Threads

05-08-2009, 06:10 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

Johnny, you really stepped in it when you said...

Johnny, you really stepped in it when you said this was a legal and not ethical issue...wow, I thought you were smarter than that.

As for Scott's running non sequitor, last time I checked how we...

Forum: Political Threads

05-07-2009, 08:31 AM

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Posted By spence

Yes, a basic sense of write and wrong as you have...

Yes, a basic sense of write and wrong as you have defined them.

Good to see you're in charge of the moral relativism police.

-spence

Forum: Political Threads

05-06-2009, 06:19 AM

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Posted By spence

I think this is a load of horse hockey. ...

I think this is a load of horse hockey.

People have the stomach for war when they believe it's the right thing to do, but people are not warmongers.

When Bush's marketing department convinced...

Forum: Political Threads

05-05-2009, 12:27 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

I believe the Geneva Convention would stipulate...

I believe the Geneva Convention would stipulate that a prisoner isn't capable of fighting back. You don't seem to be getting this...

Also, the assertion that it's fine to kill a terrorist's wife...

Forum: Political Threads

05-05-2009, 06:54 AM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

How do you know again that they have any info? ...

How do you know again that they have any info?

Besides, the rules of engagement are different if you have someone in custody and they are under your control. By your reasoning we should be able...

Forum: Political Threads

04-28-2009, 06:08 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

She's basically just parroting the same talking...

She's basically just parroting the same talking points as her father, although I think she's smarter than Nora O'Donnell.

But her core argument is simply wrong. Because we use some of these...

Forum: Political Threads

04-28-2009, 05:17 AM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

Or perhaps Powell didn't like what the Republican...

Or perhaps Powell didn't like what the Republican party had become?

Conservative and Republican are not the same thing by the way.

-spence

Forum: Political Threads

04-27-2009, 05:51 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

So you don't think the advantage Obama received...

So you don't think the advantage Obama received in the election came somewhat from Republican leaning independents and otherwise registered Republicans...

Like Colin Powell?

-spence

Forum: Political Threads

04-27-2009, 04:43 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

So how do you explain the Republicans who crossed...

So how do you explain the Republicans who crossed over to elect Obama? Perhaps they were able to reprogram themselves...

Certainly I'd think you'd agree that they were motivated by anti-Bush...

Forum: Political Threads

04-27-2009, 07:26 AM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

Neither side owns right and wrong. -spence

Neither side owns right and wrong.

-spence

Forum: Political Threads

04-27-2009, 07:26 AM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

Yes, that pretty much sums up their "ends justify...

Yes, that pretty much sums up their "ends justify the means" justification that started us down this slippery slope. I don't think I could have been more concise had I tried.

-spence

Forum: Political Threads

04-26-2009, 07:31 AM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

Several people in the Administration made the...

Several people in the Administration made the assertion on several different occasions, this isn't based on one Bush gaffe.

To be honest there's so much disinformation floating around it's...

Forum: Political Threads

04-24-2009, 08:04 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

I like how your first link starts with a quote on...

I like how your first link starts with a quote on the Taliban's progress from an Islamist leader :tooth:

But it looks like the Taliban is already in retreat as they've overstepped their bounds. I...

Forum: Political Threads

04-24-2009, 04:31 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

Care to cite any references to back up your...

Care to cite any references to back up your assertion?

And I think one must be careful with the assertion that an attack was "stopped". I'd wager that the number of terror attacks that actually...

Forum: Political Threads

04-23-2009, 06:46 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

Pakistan has a very large military controlled by...

Pakistan has a very large military controlled by secular leadership. The chance that nukes would fall into the hands of the Taliban is still very remote. I'd be more concerned with loose Russian...

Forum: Political Threads

04-23-2009, 05:15 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

We've been fortunate in that we have ideal...

We've been fortunate in that we have ideal geographic location, aside from very long borders.

To be honest I think we've grown so accustomed to the fight being "over there" that it's given (North)...

Forum: Political Threads

04-23-2009, 04:53 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

If the Middle East erupts into fire we're going...

If the Middle East erupts into fire we're going to be sending a lot of our kids and parents to die outside of this country.

Hell, we've already lost 4200+ in Iraq not counting civilian contractors...

Forum: Political Threads

04-23-2009, 12:25 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

First off it would probably shut off 1/3 of the...

First off it would probably shut off 1/3 of the oil flowing to global markets throwing our economy off the edge. Then the energy wars begin...

-spence

Forum: Political Threads

04-22-2009, 07:16 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

My hope is that our interests are not attacked,...

My hope is that our interests are not attacked, which might be very difficult to stop.

As bad as 9/11 was, a nuke or like minded attack in the Middle East could prove to be far, far worse.
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Forum: Political Threads

04-22-2009, 04:59 PM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

Right after 9/11 I'd agree. And at that time I...

Right after 9/11 I'd agree. And at that time I thought the Administration acted with a pretty cool head. It was after we had a chance to think about our actions that things really went awry. That...

Forum: Political Threads

04-22-2009, 05:58 AM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

Bush certainly took the position that the post...

Bush certainly took the position that the post 9/11 world required a new approach to security. But think about how he decided to apply this new approach. Saddam and Bin Laden were treated as the same...

Forum: Political Threads

04-21-2009, 11:53 AM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

I really didn't have much need for protection....

I really didn't have much need for protection. The thugs knew if they took me out they wouldn't have a bookie.

You see, we practiced applied mathmatics :lama:

-spence

Forum: Political Threads

04-21-2009, 11:35 AM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

Had you been in math club you'd know there were...

Had you been in math club you'd know there were no tough guys :musc:

-spence

Forum: Political Threads

04-21-2009, 11:24 AM

Replies: 153

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Posted By spence

I think you're missing the point. We're...

I think you're missing the point.

We're using these interrogation techniques on prisoners whom we simply believe might have information. You're presuming they're guilty or that everyone we've...

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