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Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 10:07 AM
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Posted By zimmy
I am moving on from this because it is redundant,...

I am moving on from this because it is redundant, but again, your truck driver example is one case with different circumstances than the baker. You choose to view it as on point because it matches...
Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 08:34 AM
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Posted By zimmy
You are ignoring the 225 plus years of legal...

You are ignoring the 225 plus years of legal proceedings and the way the supreme court has dealt with the first amendment. Are you aware that when the first amendment was drafted, states and local...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 09:28 PM
Replies: 120
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Posted By zimmy
Religious beliefs about sexuality. Posted from...

Religious beliefs about sexuality.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 06:01 PM
Replies: 120
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Posted By zimmy
The service they asked for was for him to bake a...

The service they asked for was for him to bake a cake- a service he provides to others in his business. It is reasonable for him to refuse certain aspects of cake design.

It is discriminatory to...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 05:56 PM
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Views: 33,030
Posted By zimmy
The point is that he can't refuse to make them...

The point is that he can't refuse to make them something he would make for a straight couple. He did not reject the design, he rejected making a cake for them. If he said, I will make a cake, but I...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 03:00 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,030
Posted By zimmy
Here you go. It is about an employer/employee...

Here you go. It is about an employer/employee relationship, not a business refusing a service.


"Our investigation revealed that Star could have readily avoided assigning these employees to...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 02:56 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,030
Posted By zimmy
I would have to read the details of the ruling. ...

I would have to read the details of the ruling. One inherent difference is that one case apparently involves employees and the other involves a business owner.

I imagine the questions revolved...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 01:23 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,030
Posted By zimmy
Legal precedent. I know you said you are a...

Legal precedent.

I know you said you are a simple guy, so you can appreciate this line from US vs Lee (1982): Not all burdens on religion are unconstitutional.

"... the Supreme Court has set...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 01:14 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,030
Posted By zimmy
Not sure where you found that quote, but court...

Not sure where you found that quote, but court record has it that design was never discussed with Philips before he refused them

"The gay couple never even had the opportunity to discuss designs...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 11:35 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,030
Posted By zimmy
They wanted a cake. They didn't say they wanted a...

They wanted a cake. They didn't say they wanted a "gay" cake. They didn't say they wanted it to be rainbow colored or say gay people are the best or have two men holding hands on it. He could reject...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 10:55 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,030
Posted By zimmy
Red herring. See above post. He can't refuse to...

Red herring. See above post. He can't refuse to sell them a cake that he would sell to a straight couple. They never asked him to do that.
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 10:53 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,030
Posted By zimmy
First of all, slipknot said it was because of all...

First of all, slipknot said it was because of all of the "pro-gay stuff" they wanted on the cake. They never discussed the details of what the cake would say or look like. He didn't reject them...
Forum: Political Threads 12-06-2017, 10:33 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 33,030
Posted By zimmy
No, that is incorrect. They were ok selling them...

No, that is incorrect. They were ok selling them a premade cake. They were not ok making them a custom case even if it was identical to a cake used for a heterosexual wedding. There was never a...
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