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Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 01:49 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
Exactly. But that's not good enough for the...

Exactly.

But that's not good enough for the liberals, at least on this issue. Everyone must be forcibly made to agree with them.
Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 09:22 AM
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Posted By Jim in CT
"You are ignoring the 225 plus years of legal...

"You are ignoring the 225 plus years of legal proceedings"

I posted one legal proceeding (the Muslim truck drivers) that was exactly on point. If you have legal decisions to suggest that...
Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 09:20 AM
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Posted By Jim in CT
Because the text of the first amendment, and how...

Because the text of the first amendment, and how that has been interpreted, is all that matters. You can go on and on about how bigoted and close minded the guy is, and it's worth having that...
Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 06:42 AM
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Posted By Jim in CT
Read the text of the first amendment, and tell us...

Read the text of the first amendment, and tell us why it doesn't apply here. It's so easy to label this guy a bigot. It's a lot harder to tell me why the first amendment doesn't apply.

Then...
Forum: Political Threads 12-08-2017, 06:35 AM
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Posted By Jim in CT
The Bill Of Rights says that no law shall...

The Bill Of Rights says that no law shall interfere with the free exercise of religion. It does not say "except in the case of issues of sexuality".

In fact, the Supreme Court ruled in the Hobby...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 08:41 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
"he can't refuse to make them something he would...

"he can't refuse to make them something he would make for a straight couple"

One can make a compelling case, that the first amendment says he can, as long as his refusal to do so, is based on...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 03:36 PM
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Views: 34,434
Posted By Jim in CT
But if he refuses to make a penis cake for anyone...

But if he refuses to make a penis cake for anyone who might enter his shop, he isn't discriminating against anyone. In this case, he is treating one class of customers very differently. If his...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 03:32 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
The issue isn't the cake, either. The issue is...

The issue isn't the cake, either. The issue is the event the cake will be a part of. The same principle applies to Christian photographers, florists, restaurant owners, whatever.

You can not...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 03:29 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
Constitutionally, I really don't see that it...

Constitutionally, I really don't see that it matters. The bill of rights doesn't say the freedoms only apply when it's sufficiently convenient.

These are deeply held beliefs. Just because you...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 03:12 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
I absolutely hear what you are say9ng - and...

I absolutely hear what you are say9ng - and again, good points.

But I have to believe that (just as the tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g company owner could re-assign drivers), it would also be very easy for...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 01:57 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
You make some good points. But, according...

You make some good points.

But, according to Obama's federal government, if Muslim truckers don't want to transport alcohol for religious reasons, their employer was ordered to use other...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 01:06 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
"As to Mr. Phillips’s free exercise of religion...

"As to Mr. Phillips’s free exercise of religion claim, the Supreme Court has said that the First Amendment is not a license to discriminate in the face of neutral, generally applicable laws like...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 12:32 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
Trump has had that effect on a lot of liberals.

Trump has had that effect on a lot of liberals.
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 12:31 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
Sure. Because of liberal tolerance and respect...

Sure. Because of liberal tolerance and respect and inclusion. Right?

No irony there, nope.
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 12:30 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
Nope. As Obama's EEOC lawsuit on behalf of...

Nope. As Obama's EEOC lawsuit on behalf of Muslim truck drivers said, we need to allow religious folks to maintain their convictions, where reasonable alternative accommodations are possible. Were...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 12:10 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 34,434
Posted By Jim in CT
Why is the religious freedom argument weak,...

Why is the religious freedom argument weak, exactly?

Is it because he was willing to sell them a pre-made cake for use at a gay wedding, but not make another cake? That would seem to weaken his...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 12:09 PM
Replies: 120
Views: 34,434
Posted By Jim in CT
Text of the first amendment, emphasis added by...

Text of the first amendment, emphasis added by me...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

How is this not the end of the...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 12:01 PM
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Posted By Jim in CT
His religious beliefs? They are a choice. And...

His religious beliefs? They are a choice. And the constitution says he has the right to act according to that choice.
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Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 11:59 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 34,434
Posted By Jim in CT
Perhaps you should read the first amendment. It...

Perhaps you should read the first amendment. It doesn’t say that freedom of religion only applies to people who, according to you, are sufficiently focused on love.

I am in favor of gay marriage....
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 11:55 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 34,434
Posted By Jim in CT
Based on Colorado law, he cannot refuse to bake a...

Based on Colorado law, he cannot refuse to bake a cake just because it will be used at a gay wedding.

But according to the first amendment to the us constitution, which trumps Colorado law, he...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 10:38 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 34,434
Posted By Jim in CT
50 years ago, it wasn't considered controversial...

50 years ago, it wasn't considered controversial to say "if you have a wee-wee, you go to the men's room".

Obama decide he got to pick and choose who the Bill Rights applied to, and who it didn't...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 10:36 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 34,434
Posted By Jim in CT
Paul, I don't agree with their position either. ...

Paul, I don't agree with their position either. But if Muslim truck drivers can refuse to transport alcohol, why can't Christian bakers refuse not to participate in a gay wedding? What's the...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 09:46 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 34,434
Posted By Jim in CT
and yet the liberals pat themselves on the back...

and yet the liberals pat themselves on the back for being so open-minded and tolerant, and they see zero hypocrisy when they attack Christians for having religiously-informed convictions that are...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 06:56 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 34,434
Posted By Jim in CT
So only those you agree with, are protected by...

So only those you agree with, are protected by the Bill Of Rights.

If obamas EEOC said that Muslim truckers cannot be forced to abandon any principles of their religion at work, why aren’t...
Forum: Political Threads 12-07-2017, 06:52 AM
Replies: 120
Views: 34,434
Posted By Jim in CT
In the Muslim trucker case, Obama’s EEOC argued ...

In the Muslim trucker case, Obama’s EEOC argued that employees at work can not be forced to act in any way that goes against their religion. The Christian baker is being asked to do the same exact...
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