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Forum: Political Threads 10-07-2010, 11:39 AM
Replies: 62
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Posted By spence
I believe deportation is a likely option, but not...

I believe deportation is a likely option, but not mandatory. Don't civil offenders go before an immigration judge who ultimately decides their fate? They could be deported, told to leave or given a...
Forum: Political Threads 10-07-2010, 10:11 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
I think your assumption that immigrants choose to...

I think your assumption that immigrants choose to come here illegally (while legal options are readily available) isn't really true, not at least for the bulk of unskilled workers who enter the...
Forum: Political Threads 10-06-2010, 05:52 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
I believe illegals contribute quite a bit to SS...

I believe illegals contribute quite a bit to SS without receiving any benefits. Many also seem to pay taxes...I don't think the IRS really cares who sends them money.

What I do find interesting...
Forum: Political Threads 10-06-2010, 05:49 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
I'd venture a guess that it has more to do with...

I'd venture a guess that it has more to do with the fact that if someone has been here for some time, there's likely no evidence that they violated that specific section of code. I'm not an...
Forum: Political Threads 10-06-2010, 11:59 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
We discussed this earlier in the thread. I don't...

We discussed this earlier in the thread. I don't think this part of the code is applicable to her situation. The laws appear to delineate between those trying to get over the border, those who just...
Forum: Political Threads 10-06-2010, 11:14 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
Tis the season. She doesn't serve their...

Tis the season.


She doesn't serve their interests.


I doubt it, unless there's a flood of legal workers out to perform low skilled labor people will still hire who they can get regardless.
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Forum: Political Threads 10-06-2010, 08:23 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
I don't think anyone is arguing that she...

I don't think anyone is arguing that she shouldn't be held accountable.

The context of the thread is RIJIMMY thinking she should be immediately dragged to the border in shackles. These aren't the...
Forum: Political Threads 10-05-2010, 12:26 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
I don't think revolutions are easy or...

I don't think revolutions are easy or spontaneous. They require the right combination of conditions at the right time. With the inherent corruption and poverty present in many countries, I can see...
Forum: Political Threads 10-05-2010, 12:04 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
I'll take that as a compliment. Never...

I'll take that as a compliment.


Never said that.


Amnesty is a tricky subject. There's a very good case against it, but there's also the 12M illegals already here. Doesn't seem feasible to...
Forum: Political Threads 10-05-2010, 11:44 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
You don't think many would prefer to come here...

You don't think many would prefer to come here legally if they could?

I think the challenge for someone like the subject of this thread is that unless you have a family connection or can show...
Forum: Political Threads 10-05-2010, 10:04 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
You misread the point, which is, that if you were...

You misread the point, which is, that if you were born and grew up as she did, you would likely come to the US illegally if you thought it was the best way to get ahead because of limited...
Forum: Political Threads 10-04-2010, 08:21 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
Well, that's a stretch. The simple fact is...

Well, that's a stretch.

The simple fact is that most Americans, if put in her position, would have done exactly the same thing.

That doesn't mean it's right (legally speaking) mind you, but...
Forum: Political Threads 10-04-2010, 10:39 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
That was a joke. That's not the point....

That was a joke.


That's not the point. I'm all for better control of our borders, but from her perspective...she was just trying to make a better life.



I don't think she could be charged...
Forum: Political Threads 10-01-2010, 05:17 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
I think this is intended for those caught in the...

I think this is intended for those caught in the process, not for those already here, unless sufficient evidence existed to make a case...which is highly unlikely.

-spence
Forum: Political Threads 10-01-2010, 01:51 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
I'm pretty sure that just being in the country...

I'm pretty sure that just being in the country illegally is a civil offense under Federal law.

This was a big part of the AZ legislation which sought to make it a "crime" by requiring all...
Forum: Political Threads 10-01-2010, 01:17 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
My understanding is that she would only be in...

My understanding is that she would only be in violation of a civil offense and not a criminal, certainly not worthy of handcuffs.

Considering there are 12 million or so illegal aliens in this...
Forum: Political Threads 10-01-2010, 12:32 PM
Replies: 62
Views: 21,775
Posted By spence
Who would clean the house? -spence

Who would clean the house?

-spence
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