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12-06-2013, 10:00 AM
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Detbuch - "Wages are down on average in the...
Detbuch -
"Wages are down on average in the private sector. Investment is down in the private sector. How does the public sector rate increases?"
Here's how - because when public unionized...
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12-06-2013, 06:36 AM
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Gimme gimme gimme. Earth to Spence. Since...
Gimme gimme gimme.
Earth to Spence. Since 2008, median wages are down, and medical costs are way up. Most people, therefore, have not seen wage hikes to offset their out-of-pocket medical costs....
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12-05-2013, 01:11 PM
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Oh, I see. So when you said they wouldn't...
Oh, I see.
So when you said they wouldn't get "squat", I'm sure you did a similar calculation using the accurate specifics for the lowewr wage earners. Can you send me a link that has the...
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Well, you said that the 14.5% raise, when coupled...
Well, you said that the 14.5% raise, when coupled with the hike in out-of-pocket healthcare costs, wouldn't amount to "squat". I think we now know that's not true, don't we? Isn't it, in fact, a...
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"No, it's math. Let's say your healthcare cost...
"No, it's math. Let's say your healthcare cost only 10,000 a year. If you're paying 5 wait now 10 percent of that per year the few percent of a 30,000 dollar salary isn't going to mean squat."
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12-05-2013, 08:24 AM
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Spence, what you are doing in this thread, as...
Spence, what you are doing in this thread, as usual, is throwing one pro-union talking point after another, out there, hoping something will stick. When you rpoints are shown to be irrelevant, you...
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12-04-2013, 06:08 PM
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"Just because you're in bad financial shape...
"Just because you're in bad financial shape doesn't mean you don't have a government to operate"
I didn't say the govt should shut down when it's in terrible financial shape. But when you're in...
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12-04-2013, 04:07 PM
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"The proposal made employee contributions to...
"The proposal made employee contributions to health care rise significantly"
Rise to 10% of the cost of their healthcare. They were asking the mployees to pay fopr 10% of the cost of their...
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I have many friends who are teachers. When I say...
I have many friends who are teachers. When I say 'you can't have more than there is", they always respond, and I mean every single time, with something along the lines of "you don't care what kind...
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12-04-2013, 08:41 AM
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No one relishes the idea of a public servent...
No one relishes the idea of a public servent seeing benefits cut when it's too late in their careers to adjust for that. That being said, I don't see an alternative. Nor do I buy that the union...
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Getting back to the original point... ...
Getting back to the original point...
Yesterday, in Detroit, a judge ruled that the city can proceed with bankruptcy, leaving open the likelihood that pensions will be cut. The unions are...
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12-03-2013, 10:06 AM
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That's EXACTLY, and I mean EXACTLY, what happened...
That's EXACTLY, and I mean EXACTLY, what happened to the private sector in the 1990's. And what did they do? They acdepted it for what it was. They didn't like it, but they accepted it. They...
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12-03-2013, 10:02 AM
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You make many, MANY good points. Here is one i...
You make many, MANY good points. Here is one i disagree with...
" Times were prosperous, no one saw what the future held"
Actuaries have been saying, for 50 years, that the entitlement...
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12-02-2013, 08:58 AM
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"they (police and firemen) are not allowed to...
"they (police and firemen) are not allowed to strike "
Good. There is no earthly reason why police or firemen should ever be allowed to strike. If they strike, that puts everyone at risk, and...
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But what about today? Are today's 'common men'...
But what about today? Are today's 'common men' better off thanks to unions? I'm not sure how you could say yes. Far fewer jobs, and if you are lucky enough to make it to retirement, you will never...
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11-21-2013, 08:22 AM
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I presume (could be wrong) that he means unions...
I presume (could be wrong) that he means unions provided one potential path to a middle class existence, especially for those who didn't go to college. There was a time when a high school graduate...
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11-20-2013, 08:18 AM
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I'll grant you that there was a time when unions...
I'll grant you that there was a time when unions did a tremendous amount of good. That was a long time ago. As you said, in the long run, they also priced themselves right out of existence, except...
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11-19-2013, 04:05 PM
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If that's the case, if the public decides to pay...
If that's the case, if the public decides to pay wages that are lower than the average....than the folks in that town live with the consequences, that they may get fewer, or less qualified,...
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11-19-2013, 03:41 PM
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"Individual employees do not have the ability to...
"Individual employees do not have the ability to negotiate on their own regardless of performance etc"
Because they are union. Get rid of the union, let them negotiate individually, the way...
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11-19-2013, 11:54 AM
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+ I don't know the answer to that question. ...
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I don't know the answer to that question. I'd respond by asking, why do public servants deserve the security of a contract, when no one in the public they claim to serve, has that luxury?
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IL unions get offered 14.5% raise, go on strike
Imagine if your employer offered you (1) a 14.5% pay raise, and (2) to pay for 90% of the cost of yoru health insurance. Imagine being offered that, and choosing to reject it, and then to go on...
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